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U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

Enola said:
Would anyone be upset if that vid was of the Taliban pissing on dead marines? Would you (general you) "understand" the whys and wherefores but still think the Taliban should punish the men that did it? Or claim it's no worse than what they've done before?

Just curious.
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I'd think it was just as disgusting. I'd also be able to understand why they would do it. However, I almost expect such behavior from them and they are the 'enemy' so it doesn't bother me as much when some of our own, who I expect more from, do it.
 
Enola said:
Would anyone be upset if that vid was of the Taliban pissing on dead marines? Would you (general you) "understand" the whys and wherefores but still think the Taliban should punish the men that did it? Or claim it's no worse than what they've done before?

Just curious.
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I would be less upset, because those guys are from a barbaric society and I wouldn't expect better behavior from them.

Either way, its sad and stupid no matter who does it.
 
"He who joyfully marches to music rank and file, has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would surely suffice. This disgrace to civilization should be done away with at once. Heroism at command, how violently I hate all this, how despicable and ignoble war is; I would rather be torn to shreds than be a part of so base an action. It is my conviction that killing under the cloak of war is nothing but an act of murder."
 
VanceMack said:
How many 'liberals' (since for some reason you want to tard it up with the political thing though Bubba and several others here are very much liberal and dont feel the way you do) play Battlefield, Modern Warfare, and drool over the prospect of killing people...on video games. Who was it here that said they went so far as to 'Tea bag' an enemy they killed?

Yeah...good thing those types dont take their bloodlust to the actual battlefield, huh?
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Oh come on! This is funny! The people who are morally outraged here are those who are defending a soldier's right to piss on a Taliban corpse. They are outraged by what they percieve as outrage about this stunt. That is hilarious! To be outraged by outrage that may or may not exist. I mean...seriously...how could anyone dare question anything or show any degree of disapproval of what a soldier is doing?
 
Catawba said:
Why are we there, if we don't care what Afghans think?
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We were there to kill terrorists.

Catawba said:
They've already said they would side with Pakistan in a fight with the US, how many hints do you need???
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a777pilot, you better sign the law tonight to have all American forces removed from Afghanistan. Comon... tonight...
 
Ockham said:
We were there to kill terrorists.
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So they said. The Afghans do not seem all that appreciative for our 10 years of sacrifice.
 
Catawba said:
So they said. The Afghans do not seem all that appreciative for our 10 years of sacrifice.
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Take it up with Obama, who is our Commander in Chief of the Armed forces... :shrug: He's had 3 1/2 years to grasp what you easily find so obvious.
 
Catawba said:
Why are we there, if we don't care what Afghans think? They've already said they would side with Pakistan in a fight with the US, how many hints do you need???
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Hints? I don' tneed any hints.

I've been very vocal about my opinion of our being in Afghanistan for years. Once the Bush Administration failed to fully support the attack on Tora Bora, I said we should get out.
 
Dr_Patrick said:
I guess I don't really understand what there is to applaud here. Nor do I understand the intense hatred some have for the enemy. I mean, these guys are already dead. While they held a horrible ideology, they are still human beings. Why not show them dignity in death? You've already won. I'm also incredibly sick of the bull**** macho posturing that condones this kind of behavior. I sincerely hope that the morons responsible for this heinous act are held accountable. See, we are supposed to be the good guys. We are supposed to be held at a level above the enemy, which is why our military has a code of honor. No, instead the usual tough talkers of DP come along and applaud it (boner and all) and also talk tough to the people who are disgusted by behavior. Your schtick is incredibly old and tired.
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That sums it up in two sentences.

Unless you've been there and had the same experiences these soliders have had, there's no way you can understand. If you had, you might shrug your shoulders at it, because it's no big deal.
 
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CriticalThought said:
I would really appreciate it if you could provide one example of a respected military leader who has ever condoned this kind of behavior.
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I would be glad to.

We're not just going to shoot the bastards, we're going to cut out their living guts and use them to grease the treads on our tanks --General George S. Patton, Jr.
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And, before you say, "but...but...but...that's different!", just think about the reaction we would be seeing, had soldiers in Iraq, or Afghanistan greased the treads of their tanks with human guts.
 
Lesson of the story

Don't get the USMC pissed off at you!
 
CriticalThought said:
Poor excuse. Tens of thousands of our soldiers have experienced similar or worse stress and terror than what these men experienced. Most do not piss on corpses.
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But, most understand why they would do it. You're totally missing the point.
 
Wake said:
While that is true, I mean the NAZIs who actually were the "evil" ones.
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Would i piss on them?
No.....

I consider the Taliban members out in the field, who are armed and ready to take life, to be wrong. I have no empathy for their dead corpses being watered.
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Even tho it will bring more recruits to their ranks?
Great idea! :thumbs:
 
apdst said:
But, most understand why they would do it. You're totally missing the point.
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Ok, so being stressed is an excuse for bad behavior and doing the wrong thing?
 
MarineTpartier said:
Our gov't stopped caring about this war a long time ago bro. We're just treading water so Obama can use it as a talking point during a speech.
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Right....
Lets looks at Obama spread sheet...
Drone strikes all over the world.
Increase the number of troops.
Secret missions in Pakistan (to get Osama)
Continuing the use of Guantanamo and other black sites.

Right.... He is just using these for "talking points" and he "really doesnt care"...

Our gov't doesn't want to do the things we need to in order to win. That would result in too much bloodshed and too many burnt bridges. We need to leave there now. Screw em. Pakistans nuke can't reach us anyway and Israel has missile defense.
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So this is justification to piss on dead militants...
Looks real good on the ol US and A.
Maybe we should make it standard procedure to let people pee on dead militants.. See how that would work out.. We could really win the "War on terror" then...
 
apdst said:
That sums it up in two sentences.

Unless you've been there and had the same experiences these soliders have had, there's no way you can understand. If you had, you might shrug your shoulders at it, because it's no big deal.
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And yet there are countless soldiers who have experienced similar or worse and they manage to stay professional enough to avoid pissing on the corpses of the enemy. It's a topsy turvy world.
 
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WASHINGTON, Jan 12 (Reuters) - The U.S. Marines have identified the unit whose forces are suspected of being behind a video appearing to show them urinating on the bodies of dead Taliban in Afghanistan, a Marine officer told Reuters on Thursday.
The officer, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the Marines in question were believed to be from the 3rd Battallion, 2nd Marines, which is based out of Camp Lejeune, North Carolina.
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Marines Urinating On Taliban: Unit In Video Reportedly Identified (GRAPHIC VIDEO)
 
megaprogman said:
Ok, so being stressed is an excuse for bad behavior and doing the wrong thing?
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It's not an excuse, but it's one of the reasons for this kind of behavior.
 
apdst said:
It's not an excuse, but it's one of the reasons for this kind of behavior.
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Its a poor one.

Its like saying its ok to commit a crime because you grew up wanting stuff.
 
Dr_Patrick said:
And yet there are countless soldiers who have experienced similar or worse and they manage to stay professional enough to avoid pissing on the corpses of the enemy. It's a topsy turvy world.
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And, everyone on this thread, so far, that has any military experience has said that this is no big deal and everyone that has their panties in a knot and is being all judgemental, have zero military experience.

See a pattern?
 
megaprogman said:
Its a poor one.

Its like saying its ok to commit a crime because you grew up wanting stuff.
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How can you be judge of that? Is it because of your many days spent on the battlefield?
 
apdst said:
And, everyone on this thread, so far, that has any military experience has said that this is no big deal and everyone that has their panties in a knot and is being all judgemental, have zero military experience.

See a pattern?
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Yeah, the pattern is that issues are sometimes more clear from the outside in the absence of the kind of emotionality that is clouding your judgement.
 
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