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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    That was the chant of Marines in Viet Nam (or something close). That war wasn't sanitized. This one is!! It had rules of engagement, too. It was double ugly; and we heard all about it....if not from the news, then from our soldiers as they cried themselves to sleep after they got home.

    Many here think pissing on a dead body is soooooo horrible. Give me a break. Get off your high horses and get down in the trenches with the soldiers. It's been too long and we are too far removed from the realities of war.

    Have one family friend who was a gunner on a rescue helicopter. He was sent in to rescue trapped soldiers who were hoping and praying help would come because they were hopelessly outnumbered and surrounded. Holding their breath...hiding in the jungle...waiting for that wop-wop-wop that might mean they'd make it out alive. Many times, they saved them. Sometimes, they'd land and find U.S. soldiers' bodies in pieces strewn up against barbed wire walls...their heads cut off and their penises cut off and stuffed in their mouths.

    Another friend watched as six of his buddies were blown to pieces before his eyes as a little boy came up to them...and exploded. Guess what they did to the next little boys who came out of nowhere??

    Pissing on dead bodies. OMFG. Give me a break. What an absolute shame that someone was foolish enough to post it on YouTube. As another poster here said, "That was their sin."
    Two wrongs don't make a right. The fact that war is full of atrocities doesn't make urinating on a dead corpse excusable.

    Second, while I feel for our soldiers, emotion shouldn't play any part in this.

    The Marines were correct to denounce this. American Marines are expected to follow a standard of conduct. They knew the rules, and they broke them. While I do feel sympathy for them, it doesn't change the facts of the case.

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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Two wrongs don't make a right. The fact that war is full of atrocities doesn't make urinating on a dead corpse excusable.

    Second, while I feel for our soldiers, emotion shouldn't play any part in this.

    The Marines were correct to denounce this. American Marines are expected to follow a standard of conduct. They knew the rules, and they broke them. While I do feel sympathy for them, it doesn't change the facts of the case.
    "They knew the rules" LOL!

    "No pissing on dead people! You may not piss on them or fart on them. If when killing them you want to shoot them in the head, have at it. Just don't pee on them. For Godsakes be decent. Dammit people! We just want you to slay the bastards. Shoot them in the nuts, make them die, kill them. But for the love of God, don't pee on anybody."

    This gets more and more ridiculous. "Standard of conduct" my pink Irish ass.
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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    I thought the whole point of having a code of honor and being one of the few and the proud was that you're above this sort of thing.

    Oh, well. Used to be that Americans were all about being the best, but I guess the new paradigm is that we're settling for not being as bad as "that guy over there."
    Jeez, are you people actually serious? Do you think this is something new? Have any of you read any accounts of the war in the Pacific and what both sides did to the dead - and the living - of the other? War is ugly and it's difficult to work up a hell of a lot of sympathy for those who are trying to kill you and would have no compunction about cutting your head off if they caught you.

    Americans were all about 'being the best'? Really? Did you ever hear about the Union Prisoner of War camp in Andersonville? About the treatment of American Indians during the Indian wars? The afore-mentioned Pacific war? Stop watching silly old war movies, where the soldiers don't even swear.

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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Temporal View Post
    All of which has nothing to do with filming a distasteful act. The presence of the U.S. in Afghanistan is an information campaign just as much as it is a fighting based one. If you are so naive that you think this is "harmless" then you obviously know nothing about foreign policy. You don't win over the hearts and minds of a foreign culture by comitting acts like this. I can see why you might not think it's that big of a deal, but it's not about you. It's about the success level of our operations and maintaining that.



    I'm really amazed at how some posters can be so cavalier. The same people showed up to excuse the wikileaks footage of helicopter fighters shooting down innocent civilians. They were just soldiers who were blowing off steam too, I guess.
    What in the hell are 'helicopter fighters'? There are helicopters and their are fighter jets. There are no 'helicopter fighters'.

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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    "They knew the rules" LOL!

    "No pissing on dead people! You may not piss on them or fart on them. If when killing them you want to shoot them in the head, have at it. Just don't pee on them. For Godsakes be decent. Dammit people! We just want you to slay the bastards. Shoot them in the nuts, make them die, kill them. But for the love of God, don't pee on anybody."

    This gets more and more ridiculous. "Standard of conduct" my pink Irish ass.
    I understand that this is an emotional topic, but trying to ridicule me isn't helping you make your point. What I've laid out is a simple, logical case.

    Furthermore, I have great respect for our troops. I believe that 99% of them would never behave this way, and it would be a disservice to them to say that this is the manner in which we expect our marines to behave.

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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    I guess I don't really understand what there is to applaud here. Nor do I understand the intense hatred some have for the enemy. I mean, these guys are already dead. While they held a horrible ideology, they are still human beings. Why not show them dignity in death? You've already won. I'm also incredibly sick of the bull**** macho posturing that condones this kind of behavior. I sincerely hope that the morons responsible for this heinous act are held accountable. See, we are supposed to be the good guys. We are supposed to be held at a level above the enemy, which is why our military has a code of honor. No, instead the usual tough talkers of DP come along and applaud it (boner and all) and also talk tough to the people who are disgusted by behavior. Your schtick is incredibly old and tired.

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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    What I find amusing is the outrage of those who have never experienced the absolute terror of combat. Nobody applauds this kind of behavior. But some of us understand it.

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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    What I find amusing is the outrage of those who have never experienced the absolute terror of combat. Nobody applauds this kind of behavior. But some of us understand it.
    Many soldiers also experience the terror of combat, however, they aren't also urinating on the corpses of the enemy.

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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    What I find amusing is the outrage of those who have never experienced the absolute terror of combat. Nobody applauds this kind of behavior. But some of us understand it.
    I would really appreciate it if you could provide one example of a respected military leader who has ever condoned this kind of behavior.
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