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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

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    My point went so far over your head it's not even funny.
    I'm sure ... I only wish you had a point.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    I'm sure ... I only wish you had a point.
    I wish you had literacy.

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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Absolutely not - it means they have no frame of reference to know what these men are going through and their comments therefore are premature and uninformed. In NO WAY is it "If you've never been a combat soldier have a nice hot cup of shut the **** up and don't criticize any Marines". No one is saying that ... what I and others have said is that we believe what was done was wrong, we don't endorse it, but we understand. Even I, who was never in combat, at least can understand.
    I understand YOU aren't saying that, I fully agree 100% with what you said about not endorsing but understanding - that's my position as well. You know generally I respect your opinion even when we don't see eye to eye.

    But plenty of people in this thread ARE saying that "War is hell, so if you've never been there please stfu." That's what the whole Allen West link was about.

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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    I understand YOU aren't saying that, I fully agree 100% with what you said about not endorsing but understanding - that's my position as well. You know generally I respect your opinion even when we don't see eye to eye.

    But plenty of people in this thread ARE saying that "War is hell, so if you've never been there please stfu." That's what the whole Allen West link was about.
    To all those who have said that (and I don't claim to have read everyone's post in this thread) it's certainly wrong. We who have served should be trying to explain the experiences we've had and not censor anyone's opinion, because it's someone one has to experience and live through in order to truly understand.

    You know I respect your opining as well SB - so my apologies if I got out of line there.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    I think everyone has an opinion and a right to express it. And my opinion is, walk in another man's boondocker's before you start shooting off at your pie hole. Not saying a person doesn't have the right to spew out the piehole. They do. Just saying that same right allows me to tell them to shut the **** up. LOL!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    And my opinion is, walk in another man's boondocker's before you start shooting off at your pie hole.
    So do you think every American citizen should walk in the President's Oxfords before they start shooting off at their pie hole?

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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    I think everyone has an opinion and a right to express it. And my opinion is, walk in another man's boondocker's before you start shooting off at your pie hole. Not saying a person doesn't have the right to spew out the piehole. They do. Just saying that same right allows me to tell them to shut the **** up. LOL!
    And this is a foolish thing to say, since it means Obama should be able to tell you to STFU if you criticize him since you have never ran a country. People all the time have opinions, and frequently very educated opinions with a much better perspective on things they have not actually done.
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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Dude! I got told to S.T.F.U. all the time. LOL!

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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    To all those who have said that (and I don't claim to have read everyone's post in this thread) it's certainly wrong. We who have served should be trying to explain the experiences we've had and not censor anyone's opinion, because it's someone one has to experience and live through in order to truly understand.

    You know I respect your opining as well SB - so my apologies if I got out of line there.
    No, not at all, don't worry about it.

    My position is this - most people in this thread fully understand that war is hell - that it brutalizes and dehumanizes the individual, and that the average civilian has absolutely no idea what it's like to face the trauma of getting shot at every day and getting their friends killed. We understand that.

    However, we also agree that - ironic though it is -pissing on the bodies of the dead enemy, though understandable, is a dishonorable, unprofessional act that should be condemned as wrong, and is something that should be punished (not to mention the stupidity of taking a video of it and allowing it to find its way onto the Internet).

    I think the vast majority of people in this thread agree with what I've just stated above. However, for people who ARE playing the "War is hell, you are in no position to criticize because you've never been there" card, it seems to me that their argument goes beyond understanding the behavior of these Marines - they are EXCUSING it. And that argument, to me, simply doesn't hold a lot of water and it bothers me that people think that way. There's a fine line between understanding what these Marines did and why - which all of us should do, whether or not we are critical of their actions - and excusing their behavior.
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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    Dude! I got told to S.T.F.U. all the time. LOL!
    Why won't you answer any questions?

    Do you think every American citizen should walk in the President's Oxfords before they start shooting off at their pie hole?

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