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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity View Post
    You're a fvcking idiot. You know nothing about her life and how "sweet" it has been and what her family has experienced so shut the fvck up.

    As for the thirsting to kill your enemy that has killed your buddies and seeing their dead bodies lying in the sun, i bet you're one of those hypocrites who will defend these soldiers actions and then be the first to whine and moan when you see those on the other side of the conflict mock and laugh and celebrate in the streets when one of our boys is killed.

    Both are equally disgusting but you would never see that because you're a hypocrite. You are so much like those you so easily condemn it's shocking.
    What unit did you serve in? You must have served in battle, since you feel like you can be so judgemental.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Hmm. I've out of this thread for a while, but in catching up I'm struck by a single thought: The line between being anti-war and being anti-soldier appear to be blurred.

    I'm anti-war. If I'd been in the room with Bush when he announced he was going to invade a country that had no ability to harm us based on a bunch of already debunked BS and over the objections of the entire UN nuclear inspection team who knew there were no nukes in Iraq, I'd be dead or on death row by now. I could not believe my country had betrayed everything I thought it stood for like that.

    However, our soldiers have bravely done what they were told to do. Hundreds of thousands of them over more than ten years. In their service to this country, they've been broken, they've seen horrors we cannot imagine, and they push themselves to limits most of us could never endure. They learn to compartmentalize their physical pain, the emotional pain of seeing civilians and fellow soldiers killed and maimed, and they do their jobs.

    Most of them are in their late teens and early 20's. Do they make errors in judgment? Oh hell yes. It is war. Black humor gets them over the hump. A few of them go over the edge, and become what they are fighting. Those are court marshaled and punished, as they should be.

    But to see a group of young soldiers simply peeing on a corpse and to go bat**** insane over it ... really, people. I mean, really. If being peed on is the most heinous act a person can do to another person, then just about every x-frat boy on the planet has committed the same heinous act... on live people!

    It's okay to be against the war, but when we take abhorrance of the war itself and transfer that hatred to the young men and women who are serving their countries by doing their job, then it's gone too far. This is the type of rhetoric that makes otherwise normal people spit on a young man in uniform returning from VietNam. I saw that ugliness decades back, and I will NOT be silent when I see the seeds of that hatred being planted again.

    Take a breath, take a break, and think about what some of you are really, really saying in this thread. Please.
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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    The Taliban is responsible for some of the most agregious atrocities ever commited. Blowing up schools full of school girls because they don't believe women should be educated. Murdering 8 small boys, gunning them down for laughing as they passed. Beating and torturing the children of Afghanis who cooperate with Americans. Mutilating torturing and beating women for appearing in public without a male relative or for what ever reason them see fit. And our Marines are animals for pissing on the corpses of these evil SOB's. Give me a break. I could go on listing intentional atrocities commited by the Taliban all night.
    A big part of American exceptionalism is the moral high ground that we claim. If we are going to have zero honor and jump into the gutter with our enemy, then what's the point: its just one set of barbarians fighting another set of barbarians.

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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    A big part of American exceptionalism is the moral high ground that we claim. If we are going to have zero honor and jump into the gutter with our enemy, then what's the point: its just one set of barbarians fighting another set of barbarians.
    I don't think there's more than a few posters on this thread who doesn't think the soldiers' actions were completely out of line. The argument (at least from me) comes from the adjectives used by many of them: atrocious; deplorable; sickening; et al. To call this breach of conduct atrocious is just beyond the pale, in my opinion.
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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    A big part of American exceptionalism is the moral high ground that we claim. If we are going to have zero honor and jump into the gutter with our enemy, then what's the point: its just one set of barbarians fighting another set of barbarians.
    The objective of war is to kill the enemy and destroy his will to resist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    Hmm. I've out of this thread for a while, but in catching up I'm struck by a single thought: The line between being anti-war and being anti-soldier appear to be blurred.

    I'm anti-war. If I'd been in the room with Bush when he announced he was going to invade a country that had no ability to harm us based on a bunch of already debunked BS and over the objections of the entire UN nuclear inspection team who knew there were no nukes in Iraq, I'd be dead or on death row by now. I could not believe my country had betrayed everything I thought it stood for like that.

    However, our soldiers have bravely done what they were told to do. Hundreds of thousands of them over more than ten years. In their service to this country, they've been broken, they've seen horrors we cannot imagine, and they push themselves to limits most of us could never endure. They learn to compartmentalize their physical pain, the emotional pain of seeing civilians and fellow soldiers killed and maimed, and they do their jobs.

    Most of them are in their late teens and early 20's. Do they make errors in judgment? Oh hell yes. It is war. Black humor gets them over the hump. A few of them go over the edge, and become what they are fighting. Those are court marshaled and punished, as they should be.

    But to see a group of young soldiers simply peeing on a corpse and to go bat**** insane over it ... really, people. I mean, really. If being peed on is the most heinous act a person can do to another person, then just about every x-frat boy on the planet has committed the same heinous act... on live people!

    It's okay to be against the war, but when we take abhorrance of the war itself and transfer that hatred to the young men and women who are serving their countries by doing their job, then it's gone too far. This is the type of rhetoric that makes otherwise normal people spit on a young man in uniform returning from VietNam. I saw that ugliness decades back, and I will NOT be silent when I see the seeds of that hatred being planted again.

    Take a breath, take a break, and think about what some of you are really, really saying in this thread. Please.
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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    Hmm. I've out of this thread for a while, but in catching up I'm struck by a single thought: The line between being anti-war and being anti-soldier appear to be blurred.

    I'm anti-war. If I'd been in the room with Bush when he announced he was going to invade a country that had no ability to harm us based on a bunch of already debunked BS and over the objections of the entire UN nuclear inspection team who knew there were no nukes in Iraq, I'd be dead or on death row by now. I could not believe my country had betrayed everything I thought it stood for like that.

    Gee, I remember they were looking for chemical weapons of mass destruction not nuclear ones.

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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity View Post
    You're a fvcking idiot. You know nothing about her life and how "sweet" it has been and what her family has experienced so shut the fvck up.

    As for the thirsting to kill your enemy that has killed your buddies and seeing their dead bodies lying in the sun, i bet you're one of those hypocrites who will defend these soldiers actions and then be the first to whine and moan when you see those on the other side of the conflict mock and laugh and celebrate in the streets when one of our boys is killed.

    Both are equally disgusting but you would never see that because you're a hypocrite. You are so much like those you so easily condemn it's shocking.

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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    The Taliban is responsible for some of the most agregious atrocities ever commited. Blowing up schools full of school girls because they don't believe women should be educated. Murdering 8 small boys, gunning them down for laughing as they passed. Beating and torturing the children of Afghanis who cooperate with Americans. Mutilating torturing and beating women for appearing in public without a male relative or for what ever reason them see fit. And our Marines are animals for pissing on the corpses of these evil SOB's. Give me a break. I could go on listing intentional atrocities commited by the Taliban all night.
    There's zero hard evidence that all Afghans support the extreme misogynistic policies you described. Only a portion of them do, and whether that portion is exclusively what the West calls the "Taliban" is questionable.

    Furthermore, there's no way to know if the corpses were among the Afghans who supported the policies you described.

    What's silly is anyone making a big deal out of what happens to a corpse. A corpse is just rotting organic material, period. Who cares if someone pees on it ?

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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by bicycleman View Post
    Then you must think it equally disgusting when Somalians dragged the naked and battered bodies of American soldiers through the streets of Mogadishu.
    Not disgusting. Just another day in war. Yawn.

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