Just how stupid can you get?
Just how stupid can you get?
I was not a Marine but I know that Jarheads have a war experience beyond anything people can conceive. If those guys want to pee on dead guys they shouldn't film it. That is their sin. How much of the same or similar goes on? How much of it was videoed? How much real war do you see on the news every night? Next to none. We should be paying attention to manning the country and let those line dogs fight the war.
"When Faith preaches Hate, Blessed are the Doubters." - Amin Maalouf
I'm really amazed that so many posters find this "fill-in-your-adjective." It was harmless. Get it? Dead bodies. Harmless.
Thank you, Quazi!
That was the chant of Marines in Viet Nam (or something close). That war wasn't sanitized. This one is!! It had rules of engagement, too. It was double ugly; and we heard all about it....if not from the news, then from our soldiers as they cried themselves to sleep after they got home.Yea though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil -- for I am the meanist mother-****er on planet earth.
Many here think pissing on a dead body is soooooo horrible. Give me a break. Get off your high horses and get down in the trenches with the soldiers. It's been too long and we are too far removed from the realities of war.
Have one family friend who was a gunner on a rescue helicopter. He was sent in to rescue trapped soldiers who were hoping and praying help would come because they were hopelessly outnumbered and surrounded. Holding their breath...hiding in the jungle...waiting for that wop-wop-wop that might mean they'd make it out alive. Many times, they saved them. Sometimes, they'd land and find U.S. soldiers' bodies in pieces strewn up against barbed wire walls...their heads cut off and their penises cut off and stuffed in their mouths.
Another friend watched as six of his buddies were blown to pieces before his eyes as a little boy came up to them...and exploded. Guess what they did to the next little boys who came out of nowhere??
Pissing on dead bodies. OMFG. Give me a break. What an absolute shame that someone was foolish enough to post it on YouTube. As another poster here said, "That was their sin."
Last edited by MaggieD; 01-11-12 at 10:59 PM.
Thank you, Quazi!
I got a few thoughts on this, seeing as how I'm a Marine who was in Afghanistan with those guys (not serving in the same unit) and they are on the same base as I am.
A) Why film it? Dumb
B) There are very few people on this website that have actually been to combat. I have numerous times. While I never thought of doing something like this, the lives of your enemy can become very cheap to you. Especially after you see guys you have known and served with for 3-4 years blown to bits by the IED's these cowards put out. While I don't condone it, I can understand where it comes from. I've given less than satisfactory medical care to terrorists that just killed 2 and wounded 1 of my buddies.
C) These guys are snipers. So, the already low level of pity held by them for their enemy is magnified by the fact that they were probably watching these guys put an IED in and they got a close look at them. That is one of the main missions of snipers right now in Afghan. Deter IED emplacers. When you see a guy doing something like that, it infuriates you even further.
I don't condone the actions of these guys. However, I understand where it comes from. Take all of the political crap out of it. All the "we shouldn't be there in the first place" or "thats what we get for being the aggressive occupiers we are". That stuff doesn't matter to the grunt on the ground. All he knows is he's away from his family, his buddies have been killed, mauled, and maimed for 6 months (that's about how long they've been there) and you just don't care about this Taliban puke laying on the ground in front of you. To be honest, if I caught my guys doing this, I would chew them out and that would be the end of it. There would be no paperwork involved. 3rd Battalion 5th Marine Regiment took 45 KIA, 140 loss of eyesight or limb in 6 months in the Sangin River Valley. They deployed with 600 guys. Those are just the dead and traumatic injuries. I'm not counting the concussions and flesh wounds received. Think of that, 200 out of 600 guys that you will never see again, or who will never see you or be able to walk up and shake your hand again. Thats traumatic. I'm tearing up typing this. Marines are in the best shape of any service, bar none. Sure, some high level special ops guys are better, but we are the best out of the conventional forces. When you see guys around you, combat athletes, titans of physical fitness, great Americans, patriots, being helo'd off with out their legs and arms, you're damn right some piss on a terrorist isn't a big deal to us.
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I don't doubt this which is why I've said, several times now, that their actions are understandable.What I do know is before you ship over - even after all the training and all the schools you might go to and all the guys you talk to who have been there and rotated back - it is nothing like you thought it would be. When your young ass is trained by the best and motivated and you arrive in-country and discover nothing could prepare you for the mind **** you are about to experience, there is NO POSSIBLE WAY anyone else can have a damn clue what it is like, no way. By the time you rotate home you are one jaded sumbitch. My guess is that it takes maybe 90 days to begin to re-acclimate stateside. Then it takes a while.
I'm sure a lot of this goes on and I know that we don't see hardly any, if any, 'real war' on the news. And sure, we should be paying attention to manning the country and letting soldiers get the job done. But this thread is about soldiers who chose to piss on corpse and then chose to film it, so my attention is naturally on the topic at hand. Their actions were arrogant, a poor representation of the United States, potentially something that could exacerbate tensions in the region and something that a lot of soldiers seem to be able to avoid doing in spite of going through the same stuff.I was not a Marine but I know that Jarheads have a war experience beyond anything people can conceive. If those guys want to pee on dead guys they shouldn't film it. That is their sin. How much of the same or similar goes on? How much of it was videoed? How much real war do you see on the news every night? Next to none. We should be paying attention to manning the country and let those line dogs fight the war.
"It ain't what they call you, it's what you answer to." - W. C. Fields
Thank you, Quazi!