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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    <------- Former DOD security contractor. You are incorrect.
    Sorry, I was referring to the giant military contractors who build the machines, i. e. Lockheed, Boeing, etc.

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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Boeing gives illegal orders?

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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Dpetty View Post
    Their first mistake was trying to win this war through diplomacy...


    I dont condone what these soldiers are ACUSED of, but i have not been through the horrors of war either. If doing something like this makes it easier for these hero's to do their jobs and release their rage, then i say so be it. We are all sitting back in our comfortable chairs, judging from a position of superiority, based on emotions and experiences that most of us have never, and will never experience. Under normal circumstances, what they did is taboo, but perhaps in their situation, some of us would do the same. Maybe this is their way of saying, "this is what you get for killing my friend, or my brother in arms". Its not fair for us to act like we are morally superior when we cant understand things from their perspective.
    As i said ... they disobeyed orders and no one was trying to win the war through diplomacy. General Peteraus and McChrystal had a very complex and strategic plan and orders.

    Another side note ... I am not really sitting in a comfortable chair judging ... I have worked front line delivery of acute medical care for almost 20 years. If one cannot get their emotions (especially immature and dangerous ones) under control then they must face the consequences of endangering troops, pissing on billions that undermined a mission of Petreaus and McChrystal and decided to emulate the low ground we are supposedly condemning by our presence.

    Shame on them ... and anyone that excuses the danger in which they put our troops on the ground, disobeyed orders, pissed on billions of Americans hardworking money, helped recruit and promote terrorism, took the low moral ground , brought into question if those men lying dead were indeed a threat to anyone ...well they must face the consequences.
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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Boeing gives illegal orders?
    Absolutely. It would hard for any military contractor to survive if all wars were fought legally.

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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Dion View Post
    As i said ... they disobeyed orders and no one was trying to win the war through diplomacy. General Peteraus and McChrystal had a very complex and strategic plan and orders.

    Another side note ... I am not really sitting in a comfortable chair judging ... I have worked front line delivery of acute medical care for almost 20 years. If one cannot get their emotions (especially immature and dangerous ones) under control then they must face the consequences of endangering troops, pissing on billions that undermined a mission of Petreaus and McChrystal and decided to emulate the low ground we are supposedly condemning by our presence.

    Shame on them ... and anyone that excuses the danger in which they put our troops on the ground, disobeyed orders, pissed on billions of Americans hardworking money, helped recruit and promote terrorism, took the low moral ground , brought into question if those men lying dead were indeed a threat to anyone ...well they must face the consequences.
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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    I have witnessed change of commands in a combat zone where one unit put in a lot of effort to improve the relationship with the
    citizens of a certain town and succeeded only to have the next unit come in and treat that town like crap leading to the town
    turning hostile towards our troops. This peeing on and/or defiling corpses is not a necessary part of the mission and does make a
    difference in how the locals see us.
    I am certainly against being so touchy-feely that it endangers our soldiers and prevents mission accomplishment, but this is
    something else entirely.

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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Dion View Post
    As i said ... they disobeyed orders and no one was trying to win the war through diplomacy. General Peteraus and McChrystal had a very complex and strategic plan and orders.

    Another side note ... I am not really sitting in a comfortable chair judging ... I have worked front line delivery of acute medical care for almost 20 years. If one cannot get their emotions (especially immature and dangerous ones) under control then they must face the consequences of endangering troops, pissing on billions that undermined a mission of Petreaus and McChrystal and decided to emulate the low ground we are supposedly condemning by our presence.

    Shame on them ... and anyone that excuses the danger in which they put our troops on the ground, disobeyed orders, pissed on billions of Americans hardworking money, helped recruit and promote terrorism, took the low moral ground , brought into question if those men lying dead were indeed a threat to anyone ...well they must face the consequences.
    I dont know how many times you can say "pissed on billions" but i think we get the point. To say that what they did has ruined the entire war effort up to this point is unfounded. So you have given medical care during live combat? My hats off to you. I dont think that equals the stresses snipers go through though. As i said before, im not saying what they did was ok, what im saying is stop your judging, i dont care how comfortable your chair is. They didnt help recruit or promote terrorism. Thats like saying every American baby that is born is helping recruit and promote terrorism because they want all of us dead. There is not much we can do that wont piss them off. If we start living in terror of angering the terrorists, then they win.

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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    I know, poor taliban, whom that asshole biden says "isn't our enemy".... These savages, behead, torture, maim our soldiers and you want these soldiers brought to "justice"?

    What "justice" should be metered out. I can see article 15's but that's it.


    None of those under me would have done this, but to act all pc about it, to me seems, naive at best.


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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Never claimed that. Targeting civillians is a war crime, pissing on the dead pales in comparison. Now if there are civillians in a building by choice who do not egress the building when the enemy is firing upon us, like will munny said in the unforgiven.... "should of armed himself".....


    Will you be shooting another strawman or can we try a serious discussion here?
    His argument is apparently going over your head. Here, try this one: our soldiers are responsible for their actions. The Taliban is a horrible group who does horrible things. Our soldiers don't do horrible things. However, this action was incredibly unprofessional and does create a diplomatic issue, and that can and should be condemned. Is it as bad as the things the Taliban does? Of course not. That does not mean it wasn't bad.
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