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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    This bull****! War is disgusting. What do people think it takes to go to war? Actually I know the answer to that. Most Americans would be completely horrified if they knew what war was really like. A lot of people do not understand, have no idea, how you either adapt and become warrior or you lose it and lose yourself. They ain't no kumbaya moments at the end of the day or night.
    I don't think anyone who's criticizing them is making the argument that their actions aren't understandable...

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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    I agree it was stupid to video this. I do not condemn them for pissing on the corpses of the kind of scum who blow up schools full of school girls. Sorry, no sympathy for the Taliban.
    For the record, having a problem with pissing on corpses isn't about sympathy for the Taliban. It's about having a standard of conduct for people representing the United States and all of its citizens.

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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    I disagree, desecrating the corpse of a subhuman islamist piece of excrement is not disgusting. Its victorious. Better to mark their forheads with a cross of swines blood.
    Disgusting.

    Peeing on the dead is a whole new level of vile human behavior. These men should (and will be) punished as an example to others. BUT, this is just my OPINION. People will have others, that is what makes us human. The ONLY problem here is that they videotaped it and it got out. People do gross things behind closed doors and that is where they should stay.
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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    See more and video @: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan (GRAPHIC VIDEO)Well this certainly will not help our cause. These soldiers need to be brought to justice ASAP. This makes my stomach just numb...

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    I agree with the response of the Marine Corps headquarters. "While we have not yet verified the origin or authenticity of this video, the actions portrayed are not consistent with our core values and are not indicative of the character of the Marines in our Corps".

    I am confident that some people will falsely generalize the action of a few individuals to the entire Marine Corps, or to the entire United States.

    This is unfortunate.

    I am equally confident that some people will spread this as propaganda against the Marine Corps, or the entire United States.

    That is irresponsible and antagonistic in nature.

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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    All that is recruiting and flag waving bull**** for back home. Really.
    Yeah, I definitely know some Marine vets who would vehemently disagree with you on that. Some people actually take that stuff very seriously.

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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    This sums it all:

    CAIR Condemns Alleged Desecration of Bodies by U.S. Marines

    In a letter faxed to Defense Secretary Leon E. Panetta, CAIR National Executive Director Nihad Awad wrote:

    "We condemn this apparent desecration of the dead as a violation of our nation's military regulations and of international laws of war prohibiting such disgusting and immoral actions.

    "If verified as authentic, the video shows behavior that is totally unbecoming of American military personnel and that could ultimately endanger other soldiers and civilians.

    "We trust that this disturbing incident will be promptly investigated in a transparent manner and that appropriate actions will be taken based on the results of that investigation. Any guilty parties must be punished to the full extent allowed by the Uniform Code of Military Justice and by relevant American laws."
    CAIR Condemns Alleged Desecration of Bodies by U.S. Marines - MarketWatch

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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by MadLib View Post
    I think this is a disrespectful act but I don't believe that they should be punished (at least not heavily) for peeing on the soldiers (posting a video is the inappropriate part IMAO).

    I have to agree with bubba and haymarket here. You can go into your enemy's country, turn them into Swiss cheese, bomb their civilians, but heaven forbid you pee on the dead bodies of their soldiers.
    The distinction would be that although killing is an inevitable consequence of war, peeing on a dead body serves no purpose.

    I am not saying that disrespecting a corpse is worse than killing the person to begin with. What I am saying is that we went to war for a purpose, and killing those individuals (I am assuming) was part of the overall strategic objective.

    In killing the men, the soldiers were following orders, and can't be held personally responsible.

    Nobody ordered the men to pee on the corpses, however. That is all on those soldiers as individuals... they did not need to do it.

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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    And your opinion is based on?
    Common sense. Do you honestly expect a positive and placating response to this?

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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    would prefer they wrap the corpses in a hog carcass and bury them
    to instill fear in the enemy
    I'm actually going to side with you here for a sec and say that there is some precedent to what you're saying. Fear and intimidation tactics have long been effective weapons of war, and I could cite examples in the past where gruesome fear tactics have actually prevented wars because one side was so intimidated they backed down from the fight.

    That said, there is a distinction between state-sponsored terror, and a couple rogue soldiers acting like frat boys without any direction to do so.

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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    For the record, having a problem with pissing on corpses isn't about sympathy for the Taliban. It's about having a standard of conduct for people representing the United States and all of its citizens.
    Representing the United States has NOTHING to do with it. You go to war. You discover it is nothing like you thought it would be. You discover that your enemy does not conform to the rules of engagement you were told were required of Americans. Imagine that, especially in an asymmetric war! You discover people you know die because rules were followed. The only standard of conduct you know is one that exists for civilians. You do whatever you can to survive and protect your mates (better term than friends). It's you and them against the world. In war, "God, mom and apple pie" is bull****. It's down to less than you and 100 people, "standard of conduct" left your thinking by the second week you were in-country.










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