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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Take it up with Obama, who is our Commander in Chief of the Armed forces... He's had 3 1/2 years to grasp what you easily find so obvious.
    And to think some thought Obama a liberal. LOL!
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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    So its only ok to pee on dead corpses if you served in the military?
    Im guessing why there is an investigation behind that.
    There's an investigation because it was filmed and put on youtube. Is it okay to pee on corpses --- sure. If I'm with a company and some guy decides to take a deuce on top of a dead enemy, I'm not sayin' boo for a variety of reasons.

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    Yea i understand that i wasnt there but does that give them the right to pee on dead people?
    Sure.

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    How is that possibly even close to ok?
    What's not okay about it?

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    I thought American soldiers were different than that. But i guess sense they put on a uniform that just makes them exempt from anything?
    You thought? So now Marines have to live up to what you think? That's not their job to live up to what you think they should or should not do. Their job is to do what they're told, to kill when told, to help when told and to do it in exceptional fashion. I'm sure this Marine when he pissed, did it very well.


    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    No i did not. But does that not give me the right (a citizen of the US) to speak my mind on this subject?
    It means you cannot empathize nor understand what did or did not prompt this Marine to do what he did. As you cannot and do not understand his state of mind, your view on the matter is one of a product of misunderstanding. I'm not saying you have to agree or condone his actions - but you have no way of understanding his frame of mind. You might just want to weigh that into your abject criticism and outrage.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    And to think some thought Obama a liberal. LOL!
    Oh it's a liberal trait now to be accountable... if so that's new.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Their job is to do what they're told...
    Who told them to piss on a dead enemy?
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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Who told them to piss on a dead enemy?
    That was called military initiative. They teach you that after they're sure you can follow orders and do what your told.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    That was called military initiative. They teach you that after they're sure you can follow orders and do what your told.
    Did they also teach the Marines that desecrating an enemy corpse is against the Geneva convention? Or was that lesson left out?
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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

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    Once the Bush Administration failed to fully support the attack on Tora Bora, I said we should get out.
    Agreed.......!
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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Did they also teach the Marines that desecrating an enemy corpse is against the Geneva convention? Or was that lesson left out?
    Politicians and bureaucrats worry about the Geneva Convention. I'm sure this marine had things like staying alive as more of a priority. A little levity in the field may have been just the thing to lighten up the mood.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Politicians and bureaucrats worry about the Geneva Convention. I'm sure this marine had things like staying alive as more of a priority. A little levity in the field may have been just the thing to lighten up the mood.
    Exactly what part of pissing on a corpse helps someone stay alive? Is pissing on dead bodies something you engage in for fun?
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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    All these arguments about how the Taliban and Al-Qaeda have done worse to Americans and their own people is a bunch of bull****. The enemy does not define our morality, nor our standards. Being on the righteous side of war means exactly that, we are better than all the time, not some of the time, not most of the time, all the time and that is the standard. That is the quality of Soldier, Sailor, Airman, and Marine that this nation deserves and by God the people should demand. Being right doesn't mean not committing a heinous act, then all is fair game, it means NEVER committing them. It means being that medic who will save the life of a Taliban fighter taken prisoner just after he killed the medic's buddy. That is the kind of quality and righteousness needed and should be demanded of the military. It's that attitude of respecting your enemy even when he does not respect you, for the simple reason that he's another human being and you are better than that, you have a high standard of action.

    How can we claim to be the good guys when stuff like this is done? Certainly in the grand scheme of things we've done less horrible acts than our enemies, but that's not good enough, we won't be the "lesser evil" and call it good enough, we should always strive to be completely free of these kinds of acts. Of course it will be impossible, of course mistakes will be made, Soldiers will act in ways they should not, of course there will be situations where someone has to die in a horrible and it will be unavoidable, but that doesn't mean we should give up on that standard.

    The Uniformed Code of Justice, Article 134 reads as follows:


    Quite clearly this action on the part of these Marines brings discredit upon the armed forces, it is a clear violation of our standards and discipline.
    And your argument is exactly why we are still in Afghanistan. Instead of going over there, taking it to the enemy, we are sitting back claiming the moral high road. War is immoral. That's why no one likes to do it. I don't like killing people, I don't like seeing kids dead because some terrorist decided to run in a random house and I called an airstrike in on it. That's what happens in a war though. When you sit back in Washington and put expectations upon our guys that aren't realistic, we end up being in theater for going on 11 years. We need to take the kid gloves off and take it to them. We need to stop caring what Karzai, Pakistan, and especially the Taliban care about us. If Karzai and Pakistan cared about getting rid of these terrorists, they'd have done it already. That's why we will never win that war, and why I think we should just leave. Screw an enemy laying on the ground bleeding out. I'd rather save my field dressing, Quikclot, and tourniquet for someone I actually care about, not some dirtbag that just tried to kill me or killed one of my buddies. Instead, we take care of him, he goes to "prison" for a couple of weeks, and there he is again, shooting at me. Do I think its right they pissed on those guys? No. Do I care, NO. At most they should get a Company NJP and leave it at that.
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