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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by celticwar17 View Post
    I don't really care if soldiers did this. They'll probably get in trouble for not following marine code, but why is it worth a public article? Who gives a crap, its war, they seem to be asserting their dominance over the Taliban... this war isn't really filled with respect for the other side like in the 1800s.
    There were probably as many--maybe more--of these kinds of acts in the 19th Century.

    A good example, would be when the Texas Army shot Mexican soldiers while they were swimming the San Jacinto River. Or, when Santa Anna showed no quarter at the Alamo. Or, the atrocities committed by the British Army during the Rev-War. Or, how the Federal Army's crop burning caused 250,000 Southern civilians to starve to death during the Civil War. Vicksburg, Port Hudson, Petersburg, the list goes on.

    Were the United States military to act in the same manner, today, the hand wringers would be off the chain, wanting to persecute anyone wearing the uniform.


    That further enhances the idiocy of persecuting these guys for pissing on some dead bodies.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    There were probably as many--maybe more--of these kinds of acts in the 19th Century.

    A good example, would be when the Texas Army shot Mexican soldiers while they were swimming the San Jacinto River. Or, when Santa Anna showed no quarter at the Alamo. Or, the atrocities committed by the British Army during the Rev-War. Or, how the Federal Army's crop burning caused 250,000 Southern civilians to starve to death during the Civil War. Vicksburg, Port Hudson, Petersburg, the list goes on.

    Were the United States military to act in the same manner, today, the hand wringers would be off the chain, wanting to persecute anyone wearing the uniform.


    That further enhances the idiocy of persecuting these guys for pissing on some dead bodies.
    atrocities committed by the British Army during the Rev-War? What you talking about we always played fair
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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    There were probably as many--maybe more--of these kinds of acts in the 19th Century.

    A good example, would be when the Texas Army shot Mexican soldiers while they were swimming the San Jacinto River. Or, when Santa Anna showed no quarter at the Alamo. Or, the atrocities committed by the British Army during the Rev-War. Or, how the Federal Army's crop burning caused 250,000 Southern civilians to starve to death during the Civil War. Vicksburg, Port Hudson, Petersburg, the list goes on.

    Were the United States military to act in the same manner, today, the hand wringers would be off the chain, wanting to persecute anyone wearing the uniform.


    That further enhances the idiocy of persecuting these guys for pissing on some dead bodies.
    Your probably right

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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    What you posted makes no sense compared to what you were asked. No sense at all.

    Lets go over this again shall we? My father served in in WW2 fighting the Germans. He said he never heard anything about troops urinating on the dead. You claimed that it happened. So I ask you again - what evidence do you have of this?
    that's astonishing that he wouldn't tell you that. because let me tell you, I can't wait until my sons are old enough to have the "hey son have i ever told you about this one hilarious thing we did with a couple of blown up bodies?" conversation.

    If one of them enlists and ships out to war, I'll have a frank conversation with him about the kind of stuff he's going to see and how to handle it. But other than that? That's a conversation that you have with your fellow vets, who understand the context.

    I've spent some time with the WWII vets; people who think that today's military fights tough have no idea. The entire Pacific War was no holds barred, no quarter given. You want to surrender? Well you better hope there's an officer around who still cares, or else that's just Too Friggin Bad. We massacred POW's in Europe, too, in retaliation for them doing the same. The war as it is actually fought on the ground is always different, more brutal, and more personal from what the commanders describe or what civilians see.

    I said that such modern bad behavior could endanger US troops down the road because payback could be expected from foreign combatants enraged about US troops doing such things. You claimed that my concerns were IDIOTIC now saying that they already want to kill us
    and it is. foreign combatants already will torture and murder our detainees on live television. that's why most of us had suicide pacts with close, trusted friends - "Hey man, if you can't get to me, and it looks like they have, you shoot me, and I'll do the same for you." you can't exactly make that worse.
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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    that's astonishing that he wouldn't tell you that. because let me tell you, I can't wait until my sons are old enough to have the "hey son have i ever told you about this one hilarious thing we did with a couple of blown up bodies?" conversation.
    Your reply completely ignores what I stated. Par for the course with you. Its silly for anybody to make a post here because if you see them as the enemy you will come along, misinterpret what was stated, build your own strawman, and then do battle with him. Its sad and dishonest in the extreme.
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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Your reply completely ignores what I stated. Par for the course with you. Its silly for anybody to make a post here because if you see them as the enemy you will come along, misinterpret what was stated, build your own strawman, and then do battle with him. Its sad and dishonest in the extreme.
    That seems to be what most of this forum is about.
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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Would not pissing on them have made them any less dead? Does letting the world know that Marines pissed on dead bodies save lives? It is just a story intended to make Marines look bad. That is it. Nothing else.

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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Your reply completely ignores what I stated. Par for the course with you. Its silly for anybody to make a post here because if you see them as the enemy you will come along, misinterpret what was stated, build your own strawman, and then do battle with him. Its sad and dishonest in the extreme.
    there's that projection problem of yours again.

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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    atrocities committed by the British Army during the Rev-War? What you talking about we always played fair
    It's all good, because the good guys slaughtered their asses.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    Would not pissing on them have made them any less dead? Does letting the world know that Marines pissed on dead bodies save lives? It is just a story intended to make Marines look bad. That is it. Nothing else.
    There it is folks...the long and short of the whole mess.

    I get sick of hearing this, "they endangered American lives", crap; as it killing them wasn't going to piss someone off.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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