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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    So you support actions like the urinating on others?
    A little mental antagonism towards someone recently trying to kill you is completely reasonable. I don't think this issue should ever be tried. "Under duress" certainly applies here and you might still be a little hostile after your enemy is dead. This overt hostility is good in a war zone. All our soldiers are not priests/scholars/lawyers and will do stupid things on occasion. "Boys will be boys" fits here. Not court martial the bastards. I'm no different. I remember shooting a woodchuck when I was about 11 years old and taking a piss on the dead critter. What's the difference.

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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Yeah, yeah... I get it. The US is in a war for world hegemony and sacrificing lives for oil. Your worldview is clear. Just to be sure:


    Do you consider the victims of terrorism to be collateral damage in a war for world hegemony?

    Is the US worse than terrorists, because the US does it for oil, whereas terrorists do it for "revenge" and nationalism?

    Why do you leave out ideology as a vector, while including revenge/blowback and nationalism?
    Who are these terrorists you speak of that DO IT for revenge and nationalism?

    And as you admit the USA is terrorising and slaughtering to access oil and profits

    By your definition, any resistance to US hegemony is a noble fight for freedom

    Or are you saying that there are only terrorists and dead civilians in this world?
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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post

    I sure as hell don't support ruining the lives of a few people who are brave enough to serve thir country on a foreign battlefield, over nothing.
    And in committing rash and outright stupid acts like these they place in danger their fellow American soldiers and do a great disservice to their nation, its people and their service. Perhaps making some pay for their outright stupidity and foolishness will save the lives of Americans in the future by preventing these sorts of macho displays of juvenille stupidity.
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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    A little mental antagonism towards someone recently trying to kill you is completely reasonable. I don't think this issue should ever be tried. "Under duress" certainly applies here and you might still be a little hostile after your enemy is dead. This overt hostility is good in a war zone. All our soldiers are not priests/scholars/lawyers and will do stupid things on occasion. "Boys will be boys" fits here. Not court martial the bastards. I'm no different. I remember shooting a woodchuck when I was about 11 years old and taking a piss on the dead critter. What's the difference.
    My father served in World War II in eastern europe. He even spent parts of two years in a german prisoner of war camp. The damn Nazi's were not only trying to kill him - they were trying to destroy our very nation. He had more reasons than these current combatants to hate the enemy.

    I asked him if he knew of any incidents of American troops urinating upon the enemy dead when he served and se said he never heard of such a thing.
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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    And in committing rash and outright stupid acts like these they place in danger their fellow American soldiers and do a great disservice to their nation, its people and their service. Perhaps making some pay for their outright stupidity and foolishness will save the lives of Americans in the future by preventing these sorts of macho displays of juvenille stupidity.
    They didn't put anyone in danger. That talking point is as idiotic as these criminal charges.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    My father served in World War II in eastern europe. He even spent parts of two years in a german prisoner of war camp. The damn Nazi's were not only trying to kill him - they were trying to destroy our very nation. He had more reasons than these current combatants to hate the enemy.

    I asked him if he knew of any incidents of American troops urinating upon the enemy dead when he served and se said he never heard of such a thing.
    Your dad didn't hear of it, but it happened.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    My father served in World War II in eastern europe. He even spent parts of two years in a german prisoner of war camp. The damn Nazi's were not only trying to kill him - they were trying to destroy our very nation. He had more reasons than these current combatants to hate the enemy.

    I asked him if he knew of any incidents of American troops urinating upon the enemy dead when he served and se said he never heard of such a thing.
    I believe that. Of course, you must remember that WWII was the last war we really fought to win. Everyone was too busy to be urinating on soldiers. Now, they need a break so they can read their ROE's. One-handed.
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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Your dad didn't hear of it, but it happened.
    Do you have any evidence of this for us to examine?
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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    They didn't put anyone in danger. That talking point is as idiotic as these criminal charges.
    And you know this how exactly?

    And what is idiotic about expecting payback from the other side down the road?
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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Do you have any evidence of this for us to examine?
    I think this picture quite poignantly shows the difference between WWII and all the other "wars" we've fought since:

    Dog.jpg

    THIS in contrast to a video someone put up a few weeks ago showing our guys throwing puppies off a cliff.
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