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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

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    So now it is "modern history"? So you can expand what killing is more and more until you "win", eh? How many Vietnamese were Muslims? The debate is about Muslims and Americans fighting and killing in the current Middle East wars. Stay on topic.
    Okay, it was the same as with Vietnam. How many American civilians did the Iraqis kill before we attacked them?
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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Vietnam - "Overall figures for North Vietnamese civilian dead range from 50,000[1] to 2,000,000.[27]"
    Vietnam War casualties - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Americans civilians killed by Vietnamese before we invaded - 0
    We're not discussing Vietnam or are you claiming the Vietnamese were terrorists?

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    Iraq - from the most conservative civilian numbers - "66,081 civilian deaths"
    Casualties of the Iraq War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    American civilians killed by Iraqis before we invaded - 0
    Where's the terrorist count?
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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    We're not discussing Vietnam or are you claiming the Vietnamese were terrorists?
    Where's the terrorist count?
    I see, you would rather not look at our pattern of killing more civilians in other countries then our "enemy" killed here.

    Very well, there were no Iraqi terrorist attacks on American civilians before we attacked Iraq. That's the point! Compared with the 66,000 Iraqi civilians we killed by the most conservative count, which I referenced above..

    And you think we hold the moral high ground in our war with Iraq???

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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Okay, it was the same as with Vietnam. How many American civilians did the Iraqis kill before we attacked them?
    This is about Muslims killing Muslims in the Middle East versus Americans killing Muslims in the Middle East. Can you actually NOT graps this?
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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I see, you would rather not look at our pattern of killing more civilians in other countries then our "enemy" killed here.
    It was a test. You stated the U.S. has killed more innocent people than terrorist. First you don't know how many terrorist we've killed. Second, there's no way for you to verify or know who was or was not innocent. Third, your reply was one that included Vietnam (over 60 years ago and has zero to do with terrorism), then add your long standing talking point from Wikipedia.

    It shows me you're simply demagoging and have clear understanding of what you say. It's just turn on the switch and the rhetoric pours forth.

    But thanks for taking the time to verify it. Every once in a while I need to see if someone has grown; learned something or maybe has started being a little more honest in their discussion. I see you have not, but I appreciate you taking the time.
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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    It was a test. You stated the U.S. has killed more innocent people than terrorist. First you don't know how many terrorist we've killed. Second, there's no way for you to verify or know who was or was not innocent. Third, your reply was one that included Vietnam (over 60 years ago and has zero to do with terrorism), then add your long standing talking point from Wikipedia.
    I provided the most conservative numbers available, and you have provided nothing to refute them.

    It shows me you're simply demagoging and have clear understanding of what you say. It's just turn on the switch and the rhetoric pours forth.
    It shows me you don't have facts to back up your opinion, as usual.
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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    This is about Muslims killing Muslims in the Middle East versus Americans killing Muslims in the Middle East. Can you actually NOT graps this?
    Oh, the civilians we kill do not count? Is that how you would like to play? My point is that we kill far more civilians in other countries, than we have civilians killed here by other countries.

    Let me clear, I'm not condoning in any way our civilians being killed, I'm just pointing out that our killing of civilians in countries that are of no military threat to us, is no better.
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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I provided the most conservative numbers available, and you have provided nothing to refute them.
    My purpose isn't to dispute them.

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    It shows me you don't have facts to back up your opinion, as usual.
    Your posts consistently champion one side of the story, and parrot it at every opportunity. How many terrorists? You don't know, you have NO facts on the terrorists... That's called partisan shilling.

    Thanks for continually verifying... please say more and verify more. I can't wait.
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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    My purpose isn't to dispute them.

    Your posts consistently champion one side of the story, and parrot it at every opportunity. How many terrorists? You don't know, you have NO facts on the terrorists... That's called partisan shilling.

    Thanks for continually verifying... please say more and verify more. I can't wait.
    As usual I've proven my point, with you providing nothing to refute but it lip flapping, and you think you've won the argument. Carry on Ockham!
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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Let me clear, I'm not condoning in any way our civilians being killed, I'm just pointing out that our killing of civilians in countries that are of no military threat to us, is no better.

    How can you tell a terrorist from a civilian? Do you know?

    If you have any idea at all perhaps you can pass it along to those people who do the groping at the airports.

    But my guess is that you really have no idea what you are talking about.

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