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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    "Over One Million Iraqi Deaths Caused by US Occupation
    A) The Lancet survey is a fallacious study.

    B) Where in those articles does it state who was responsible for the killings? Because my article makes it quite clear that the responsibility for the vast majority of the deaths is on the hands of the insurgency.

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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    2,723 added to another 6,300 to 23,600 killed by the US compared to 6,279 killed by anti-government forces.
    You are now just making up statistics out of whole cloth now.


    Most were, look at the number of violent death occurring in Iraq and Afghanistan before and after our wars on them.

    "More households were surveyed, allowing for a 95% confidence interval of 392,979 to 942,636 excess Iraqi deaths."
    Lancet surveys of Iraq War casualties - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    That's the number of violent deaths in excess of the number of violent deaths in Iraq before our invasion/occupation.
    But the majority of those deaths came at the hands of the insurgency as my article clearly states! Now you can assert that the U.S. has responsibility in this for liberating Iraq from a genocidal tyrant but at the same time allowing for the insurgency to start, however, while we may bare some responsibility for it, the blood of the vast majority of those killed in Iraq is at the hands of the insurgents.

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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Stormageddon View Post
    You are now just making up statistics out of whole cloth now.
    From the article you reference:

    "Another 6,300 to 23,600 civilian deaths resulting directly or indirectly from the war between 2001 – 2003 should be added to this statistic."




    But the majority of those deaths came at the hands of the insurgency as my article clearly states! Now you can assert that the U.S. has responsibility in this for liberating Iraq from a genocidal tyrant but at the same time allowing for the insurgency to start, however, while we may bare some responsibility for it, the blood of the vast majority of those killed in Iraq is at the hands of the insurgents.

    Despite what you have conjured up in your mind, Iraq never requested our invasion. And you ignore that the half million to a million violent Iraqi deaths are above the number happening before our war with Iraq.

    "Out of all the Iraqi casualty surveys so far, only the Lancet surveys and the Iraq Family Health Survey were peer-reviewed."
    Lancet surveys of Iraq War casualties - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    You are also ignoring the Iraqis we killed in 1991:

    "a research professor at Carnegie Mellon University, Daponte was a 29-year-old demographer at the Commerce Department in 1992, responsible for keeping track of developments in the Middle East, when she estimated that 158,000 Iraqis -- 86,194 men, 39,612 women and 32,195 children -- had perished in the war and its aftermath."

    "In a subsequent 1993 study funded by Greenpeace, Daponte updated and publicly presented her analysis of the Gulf War, raising the total Iraqi death count to 205,000. She estimated that 56,000 Iraqi soldiers and 3,500 civilians were killed during the war, and that another 35,000 died as Saddam Hussein crushed Kurdish and Shiite rebellions that rose up after the United States stopped fighting. The largest number of deaths -- 111,000 -- Daponte attributed to "postwar adverse health effects."

    Estimates of deaths in first war still in dispute
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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    From the article you reference:

    "Another 6,300 to 23,600 civilian deaths resulting directly or indirectly from the war between 2001 – 2003 should be added to this statistic."
    That's an incredible disparity and it strongly suggest that whoever presented these numbers has no real idea what they are talking about. Yet you seem too put credibility in these numbers, prepared to believe anything.

    Nor does it say who was responsible for these alleged deaths but it appears safe to assume that you would also blame the Americans for any and all deaths.



    Despite what you have conjured up in your mind, Iraq never requested our invasion.
    Really? Saddam Hussein, one of the most vile dictators in history, never requested an invasion? Have you yet considered why that might be so?

    And you ignore that the half million to a million violent Iraqi deaths are above the number happening before our war with Iraq.
    Before and after this war it was mostly Muslims killing Muslims with the Coalition trying to protect the people. In fact thats starting again. If murdering Muslims was the intent the Coalition troops could have created extremely high casualties. Or have you not even considered this possibility?

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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Before and after this war it was mostly Muslims killing Muslims with the Coalition trying to protect the people. In fact thats starting again. If murdering Muslims was the intent the Coalition troops could have created extremely high casualties. Or have you not even considered this possibility?
    We kill more inadvertently than the terrorists kill on purpose. Hooray!
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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    We kill more inadvertently than the terrorists kill on purpose. Hooray!
    Used to be: "Kill 'em all and let God sort 'em out".
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Used to be: "Kill 'em all and let God sort 'em out".


    Yeah, that same mentality.
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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    This is appositely wrong, i can't say on this

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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Really? Saddam Hussein, one of the most vile dictators in history, never requested an invasion?
    Crazy... huh?

    If murdering Muslims was the intent the Coalition troops could have created extremely high casualties. Or have you not even considered this possibility?
    We have gone out of our way to protect citizens. This isn't WWII where the enemy is wearing uniforms and we still bombed the **** out of hundreds of thousands of innocent non-combatants. This is an enemy that hides amongst civilians and a war where we hold our soldiers to a much higher standard than we did back then.

    STILL! We have all these America Haters that bitch and bitch about how bad we are and make the poor terrorists the victims. Disgusting and pathetic. These sypathizers aren't quite our enemy... but they almost are. They spread anti-American propaganda and this creates confusion and disunity and is very different from questioning our motives or goals... they are actively undermining our troops in the field.
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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    We kill more inadvertently than the terrorists kill on purpose. Hooray!
    Maybe true... We inadvertently kill innocent people that drive by road side checks or are in the same apartment buildings as the terrorists hiding in them while the terrorists purposely walk into a market and blow up innocent people. Hooray for your disloyalty!!
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