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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Im sure everyone realizes...This...ISNT...SPARTA!!! These folks werent raised from birth to be soldiers...they are your cousin...your brother...your neighbor. And sometimes...they make STUPID decisions...professional training aside. The military will deal with them appropriately. Frankly...those expressing the outrage...please...by all means...Jump right to the front of the line. Lets see how you respond to the real world where you dont get to re-spawn and start the war scenario over from your last saved scene and the blood of your buddy isnt digital..

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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Im sure everyone realizes...This...ISNT...SPARTA!!! These folks werent raised from birth to be soldiers...they are your cousin...your brother...your neighbor. And sometimes...they make STUPID decisions...professional training aside. The military will deal with them appropriately. Frankly...those expressing the outrage...please...by all means...Jump right to the front of the line. Lets see how you respond to the real world where you dont get to re-spawn and start the war scenario over from your last saved scene and the blood of your buddy isnt digital..
    Exactly what constitutes "expressing outrage"? It seems I am expressing outrage but I am not entirely sure how I am doing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Exactly what constitutes "expressing outrage"? It seems I am expressing outrage but I am not entirely sure how I am doing it.
    Are you expressing outrage? If so...this applies...if not...not. If you just cant fathom how someone could possibly do something like this...put yourself...or your buddies in the actual situation and not the PS3 version.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Are you expressing outrage? If so...this applies...if not...not. If you just cant fathom how someone could possibly do something like this...put yourself...or your buddies in the actual situation and not the PS3 version.
    When I played Halo, I teabagged my fallen enemies. It is the fact that I can relate the behavior of those soldiers to video games that has me so amused by it.
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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Many here think pissing on a dead body is soooooo horrible. Give me a break. Get off your high horses and get down in the trenches with the soldiers. It's been too long and we are too far removed from the realities of war.
    Can I please remind you of this in the thread where you called killing somebody working on the Iranian nuclear bomb project "terrorism"?
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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    So what? They were Taliban. I'm sure they deserved it.
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    Article 134. General article:
    Though not specifically mentioned in this chapter, all disorders and neglects to the prejudice of good order and discipline in the armed forces, all conduct of a nature to bring discredit upon the armed forces, and crimes and offenses not capital, of which persons subject to this chapter may be guilty, shall be taken cognizance of by a general, special, or summary court-martial, according to the nature and degree of the offense, and shall be punished at the discretion of that court.
    That's the "so what" about it.

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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Can't really get horribly worked up about it.

    That said, its against the marine code, and I think the bigger issue to be honest is having it recorded rathre than just doing it. Three guys randomly doing something like that...it ends there. No big whoop. When you record it you open up the possability of it being brought to public and it sullies the name of the Marines.

    I don't find it stomach churningly disgusting as the melodramatic person in the OP stated. Part of the way these guys, and most everyone before them in wars, survive through these things is through a slight dehumanizing of the enemies in their mind. As such, it wouldn't shock me that people would do this. I'm not saying appropriate action shouldn't be taken...it absolutely should. I'm just not all that "outraged" about it.

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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Cant help but wonder how many of those expressing outrage have worn the uniform and 'been there'.

    Stupid...yes. Both in the doing and more importantly, recording it.
    These guys were morons and have set themselves up for major punishment by their superiors. I have worn the uniform and I know stuff happens but to grandstand it would be retarded.
    Nonetheless outrage is appropriate at that stupidity of it all.

    But ironic I in another thread bring up the fact that not one Romney has ever worn the uniform and you called me a hack. I guess in this case one must need to wear the uniform to appropriately be outraged.
    Do you think any of the Romney men could even relate to this, well alone send someone's son to war?

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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    When I played Halo, I teabagged my fallen enemies. It is the fact that I can relate the behavior of those soldiers to video games that has me so amused by it.
    Strangely, this is one of the first things I thought of. This kind of juvenile defiling of the dead is fairly common in a virtual world, and with the way some have to dehumanize the enemy to be able to mentally get past the notions of war, this happening occasionally with young men in the real world doesn't shock me or turn my stomach. There's a difference between "excusing it" or stating that its "okay", and stating that it doens't surprise you and you can understand how it could come to be.

    As I said, I have a bigger issue and annoyance and perhaps "outrage" over the stupidity of going to the length of providing any kind of visual evidence of it. A one off thing like htis is unlikely to damage the reputation of the marines nor the mission in any even minor way. Doesn't make it right, but that's the truth of it. By being dumb enough to put it down on film they were taking risks that negatively affect not just them but those serving with them. That bothers me more so than some 20 somethings, marine or not, acting in a juvenile fashion.

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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck View Post
    These guys were morons and have set themselves up for major punishment by their superiors. I have worn the uniform and I know stuff happens but to grandstand it would be retarded.
    Nonetheless outrage is appropriate at that stupidity of it all.

    But ironic I in another thread bring up the fact that not one Romney has ever worn the uniform and you called me a hack. I guess in this case one must need to wear the uniform to appropriately be outraged.
    Do you think any of the Romney men could even relate to this, well alone send someone's son to war?
    You are a partisan hack because you are selective in your disgust of people who dont serve. Tell me...in that thread you cite...did you first express your disgust with Obama? Or Clinton? No...of course not. When you bring it up here, do you similarly wonder how the current commander in chief can 'relate'?

    As for this issue...I dont expect everyone to serve in the military. I DO expect everyone to do their job as a citizen. I dont expect this story not to bother people...but I DO expect people to at least attempt to put themselves in their position before they rush to judgement of others.

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