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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You want these Marines punished with a courts martial, yet want to deny any guilt on the part of Choi and Watada.
    Yeah...point out where exactly I said that.

    Watada was issued an order to deploy to an opeartional theater and he refused to deploy. That's illegal.
    Not if the order itself was illegal - which, once again, is a matter of debate.

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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by kenvin View Post
    Dishonorable discharge isn't harsher than a court marshal that can carry time in a military prison.
    Watada and Choi were dishonoably discharged? Spent time in prison?

    The question isn't what penalty they actually faced. The question is, what penalty should they actually face.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Yeah...point out where exactly I said that.
    Refresh my memory: what should happen to these Marines?



    Not if the order itself was illegal - which, once again, is a matter of debate.
    I guess that means that you support the officers who refused to deploy, because they believed that Obama was the ligitimate president, because he wasn't a natural born citizen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Watada and Choi were dishonoably discharged? Spent time in prison?

    The question isn't what penalty they actually faced. The question is, what penalty should they actually face.
    Watada court marshal Choi NJP and guys who pissed on corpses dishonorable discharge.

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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by kenvin View Post
    Watada court marshal Choi NJP and guys who pissed on corpses dishonorable discharge.
    Ok! So, you want these Marines to suffer a harsher punishment, for committing the same offense, at the most?

    In the case of Watada, these committed a much lesser offense.
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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Refresh my memory: what should happen to these Marines?
    I said I don't really know. I don't support them being discharged. I do however think someone should explain to them how stupid their actions were.

    I guess that means that you support the officers who refused to deploy, because they believed that Obama was the ligitimate president, because he wasn't a natural born citizen.
    Well, I certainly respect their right to want to make that argument if that's what they believe. Whether or not they can actually provide evidence and rationale for their belief is another matter. This might be a leetle stretch, but I'm gonna go with they probably can't come up with a sound argument.

    Since birthers and most other conspiracy theorists are stupid by definition, my problem with those guys isn't so much that they did something wrong or criminal, but that they're just being idiots.

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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Ok! So, you want these Marines to suffer a harsher punishment, for committing the same offense, at the most?

    In the case of Watada, these committed a much lesser offense.
    They committed a lesser offence that Watada, but a worse offence than Choi.

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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by kenvin View Post
    They committed a lesser offence that Watada, but a worse offence than Choi.
    What are you basing your opinion on? Please show us the regs they violated, that are worse than those violated by Watada and Choi. Thanks in advance.

    FYI: Both Watada and Choi are guilty of conduct unbecoming an officer, which is punishable by a dishonorable discharge.

    Let the hypocrisy spill out all over the place!
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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    What are you basing your opinion on? Please show us the regs they violated, that are worse than those violated by Watada and Choi. Thanks in advance.

    FYI: Both Watada and Choi are guilty of conduct unbecoming an officer, which is punishable by a dishonorable discharge.

    Let the hypocrisy spill out all over the place!
    Enough with the melodrama. Watada certainly is the worst and deserves what he gets for refusing to be deployed, and for trying to make a political stunt.

    Choi please he admitted he was gay, and worked to point out DADT was a stupid regulation. He didn't make it a ridiculous spectacle and showed honor. When he tesified one could tell he really wanted to make the military better for everyone.

    The Marines who desecrated a corpse did not show honor. Not only did they committ an act that would be criminal in the civilian world. They dishonored themselves, their service and their country. They went even further and put the whole thing on video so the world could share the same they brought on themselves their service and their country. They inflamed hatred. So for being dishonorable they deserve dishonorable discharge.

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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by kenvin View Post
    Enough with the melodrama. Watada certainly is the worst and deserves what he gets for refusing to be deployed.

    Choi please he admitted he was gay, and worked to point out DADT was a stupid regulation. He didn't make it a ridiculous spectacle and showed honor. When he tesified one could tell he really wanted to make the military better for everyone.

    The Marines who desecrated a corpse did not show honor. Not only did they committ an act that would be criminal in the civilian world. They dishonored themselves, their service and their country. They went even further and put the whole thing on video so the world could share the same they brought on themselves their service and their country. They inflamed hatred. So for being dishonorable they deserve dishonorable discharge.
    Choi broke the rules, not only did he violate DADT, he was arrested while in uniform--a major violation.

    Basically, you're telling us that you're all about enforcement of the rules that you agree with and to hell with the ones that you don't like.

    Hey! I get it, brother!!! You did a damn fine job making my point for me.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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