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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Thats right and officers can ruin their careers by making public statements that are contrary to Marine Corps policy.

    I'm sure you heard officers talking about that when you were the DEFAC NCOIC.
    I didn't work in the DEFAC or as a cook, but I'm sure you as a NURSE saw a lot of combat soldiers come through. See I can misrepresent your service as well, it accomplishes nothing. Shall we continue?

    If pissing on dead bodies is against Marine Corp policy, that is proof that what the soldiers did was wrong. There is no hand wringing because they in fact did the WRONG thing. You seem to be arguing that it is not wrong to do what they did.

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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    I can't believe this thread is still going. Okay, I'll solve it for everyone.
    1) They were wrong for embarrassing our country.
    2) They should be NJP'd
    3) Who really cares if a terrorist got urinated on? Doesn't bug me a bit. I only care that they gave us such a black eye. Their being caught makes me more mad than the act does.
    4) They should not be court martialed, be discharged, or anything of the sort. They are more than likely already going to lose their GI Bill. Isn't that enough?
    5) General's are indeed hypocrites. They will say whatever they need to in order to keep their position and the opportunity to retire and work for a "private contractor" signed by the gov't. That's their entire goal in life after they pin on Colonel. Get General, be nice a few years, retire and "advise" people until they're 70.
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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    I didn't work in the DEFAC or as a cook, but I'm sure you as a NURSE saw a lot of combat soldiers come through. See I can misrepresent your service as well, it accomplishes nothing. Shall we continue?

    A nurse? Hell, I wish! I sure as hell wouldn't be walking around with drilling mud in the crack of my ass for a living if I was a nurse.

    If pissing on dead bodies is against Marine Corp policy, that is proof that what the soldiers did was wrong. There is no hand wringing because they in fact did the WRONG thing. You seem to be arguing that it is not wrong to do what they did.
    Again, I never said they didn't do anything wrong, nor that they don't need to be disciplined; only that it's not a capital crime as some are suggesting.

    A dishnorable disacharge would be a tad bit harsh. Don't you think?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    I am guided by this definition which boiled down includes what I have posted. You cite no authority and your example is less than worthy of examination.

    United States Code: Title 18,2331. Definitions | LII / Legal Information Institute

    United States Code: Title 22,2656f. Annual country reports on terrorism | LII / Legal Information Institute

    Why are you directing this toward me?
    Perhaps you should have read that definition before you posited a stupid one. Also of concern was your use of the term "directed" as opposed to "perpetrated". Your choice of "directed" presumes the prior existence of terror that is merely 'directed' towards something. This implies that terrorists are not the source of terrorism but merely direct it at others. It might be subtle, but it's there - and it's disturbing.

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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    "Four US marines identified by the military as the soldiers filmed urinating on corpses in Afghanistan are likely to face a court martial after an American military commander said such actions are a "grave breach" of the laws of war."
    I'm sorry, but I must laugh one more time about the "American military commander's" choice of words...

    He could have chose unfortunate, serious, very serious or even disgusting, but "grave". How lol is that? He knows he's making the joke. It's not like he invented the adjectives on-the-fly. He's supporting the troops, it's so kickass-funny.

    Note, I do not support peeing on anyone, including dead people. But it's really not that big of a deal, as noted by the commander. CM might find them off the hook, back in action and doing who knows what in the future. Should we release former pee'rs back into combat? What if they do it again?!11

    haha

    Ok, I'll leave that alone now. Let's get back to calling it a war crime, that's funny too.

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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Perhaps you should have read that definition before you posited a stupid one. Also of concern was your use of the term "directed" as opposed to "perpetrated". Your choice of "directed" presumes the prior existence of terror that is merely 'directed' towards something. This implies that terrorists are not the source of terrorism but merely direct it at others. It might be subtle, but it's there - and it's disturbing.
    What I find disturbing, if not laughable, is your feeble attempt at winning a silly argument.

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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    The military does not tolerate such behavior from it's own troops, regardless of the branch, or how much the enemy may deserve it. Even though they are fighting a war, the are PROFESSIONALS. The taking of life should never be funny, even if it is a battle zone, no matter how horrible they were. Loss of life, no matter how large a part of war it is, is never funny.
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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Krasche View Post
    The military does not tolerate such behavior from it's own troops, regardless of the branch, or how much the enemy may deserve it. Even though they are fighting a war, the are PROFESSIONALS. The taking of life should never be funny, even if it is a battle zone, no matter how horrible they were. Loss of life, no matter how large a part of war it is, is never funny.
    If that were totally true, the military wouldn't tolerate soldiers writing books about killing people in a war, like Navy sniper Chris Kyle is doing.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    What I find disturbing, if not laughable, is your feeble attempt at winning a silly argument.
    I don't have an argument to win. Lots of people shot down your BS. And you cannot run from the terminology you used...

    Terrorism: Terror DIRECTED for politics.

    That is a very stupid definition and the use of the word 'directed' instead of perpetrated is telling. It betrays your belief that the terror is not generated by the terrorists.

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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    All is fair in love and war. How about "war is hell?"

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