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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Of course nobody condones it. Nobody applauds it. But some of us understand it. Do you people live in never never land, where American soldiers have always behaved with honor and treated the enemy with dignity and respect? Do yourselves a favor. Rent the HBO series 'The Pacific' and spend a few days watching it. You might get some understanding of why soldiers do what they do.

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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    Of course nobody condones it. Nobody applauds it. But some of us understand it. Do you people live in never never land, where American soldiers have always behaved with honor and treated the enemy with dignity and respect? Do yourselves a favor. Rent the HBO series 'The Pacific' and spend a few days watching it. You might get some understanding of why soldiers do what they do.
    Nobody applauds or condones it? Have you even read some of the replies in this thread? What is the point of having a code of honor if this type of behavior is "understandable"? **** it, why have any rules at all? Let's just be careless chaotic assholes and **** everything up!!

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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    Of course nobody condones it. Nobody applauds it. But some of us understand it. Do you people live in never never land, where American soldiers have always behaved with honor and treated the enemy with dignity and respect? Do yourselves a favor. Rent the HBO series 'The Pacific' and spend a few days watching it. You might get some understanding of why soldiers do what they do.
    Poor excuse. Tens of thousands of our soldiers have experienced similar or worse stress and terror than what these men experienced. Most do not piss on corpses.
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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Who is making excuses? I don't excuse anything. I understand why it happened. And people are acting as if this is something new - something strange in the annals of warfare. What in the hell do you think war does to people?

    American mutilation of Japanese war dead - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    But if it makes you feel superior to be morally outraged by this, knock yourself out.
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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    Who is making excuses? I don't excuse anything. I understand why it happened. And people are acting as if this is something new - something strange in the annals of warfare. What in the hell do you think war does to people?

    American mutilation of Japanese war dead - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    But if it makes you feel superior to be morally outraged by this, knock yourself out.
    So do you feel that the soldiers who did this should be punished?

    For me, it has less to do with morals and more to do with the macho bull**** posturing that condones this type of behavior.

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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    So do you feel that the soldiers who did this should be punished?

    Yes. I'd want the court marital board to be made up of men who had actually seen combat, however. As I said, I don't condone it, I don't excuse it, but I also don't react like this is something brand new as far as warfare is concerned. The more brutal the fighting, the more brutal the conduct.
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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    Probably. I'd want the court marital board to be made up of men who had actually seen combat, however.
    Why should that make a difference? The code of honor is there for a reason and has nothing to do with how much combat one has seen. And like CriticalThought said earlier, many soldiers have seen far worse and managed to avoid pissing on the corpses of the enemy. Why should these particular soldiers be given special consideration?

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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    Who is making excuses? I don't excuse anything. I understand why it happened. And people are acting as if this is something new - something strange in the annals of warfare. What in the hell do you think war does to people?

    American mutilation of Japanese war dead - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    But if it makes you feel superior to be morally outraged by this, knock yourself out.
    Morally superior? To people who have reduced themselves to pissing on dead people and joking about it? Clearly that is a perfectly healthy and respectable way of dealing with traumatic stress.
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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    Yes. I'd want the court marital board to be made up of men who had actually seen combat, however.
    The correct response should be "Yes, but the military should hand down the punishment, not some bureaucrat in DC." It should have nothing to do with who makes up the board. That's like saying that a person on trial for murdering his cheating spouse should have a jury made up of those who have also had their spouse's cheat on them. The military doesn't work that way. I would hope that those pissing on the corpses get punished. While I understand why they did it, it doesn't make it right that they did it.
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    Re: U.S. Marines Urinate On Dead Bodies In Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    Why should that make a difference? The code of honor is there for a reason and has nothing to do with how much combat one has seen. And like CriticalThought said earlier, many soldiers have seen far worse and managed to avoid pissing on the corpses of the enemy. Why should these particular soldiers be given special consideration?
    Because I believe people should be tried by a jury of their peers. I suspect their judgement might be just as harsh. I realize that you might prefer the trial to be held in San Francisco and judgement rendered by a jury composed of Code Pink members. I don't.

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