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Democrat NLRB ‘recess’ appointments rushed, don’t appear on White House nominee list

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Yeah this is an attack on the constitution.

But to both parties the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012 is just peachy.

Go ****ing figure.

No wonder America is screwed.
 
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Look folks, neither the House nor the Senate was in session on the 4th, making Obama's recess appointments perfectly legal.
 
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Look folks, neither the House nor the Senate was in session on the 4th, making Obama's recess appointments perfectly legal.

Partisan hackery aside, I think everyone should be concerned with the creeping powers of the executive branch. Probably to nuanced for most people who post on a site like this.
 
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Partisan hackery aside, I think everyone should be concerned with the creeping powers of the executive branch. Probably to nuanced for most people who post on a site like this.

creeping powers?

he made Recess Appointments when neither the House nor Senate were in session. Save the hyperbole.
 
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creeping powers?

he made Recess Appointments when neither the House nor Senate were in session. Save the hyperbole.


We are still waiting for you to provide where Boenher gave Reid the permission to recess pursuant to the Constitution...You haven't done that yet, why? If it is so laughable to you, and we conservatives are all just partisan whiners, then where is that part of the argument? Why do you keep ignoring it?


j-mac
 
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creeping powers?

he made Recess Appointments when neither the House nor Senate were in session. Save the hyperbole.

So can a recess appointment be made 3AM any night of the year? Is it legitimate to use this process for people who have not been held up in a filibuster type process. How about "signing documents" which Bush and Obama use to sign a law but point out that they will not fulfill parts they do not like.

Tired of folks like you who are fine with whatever, as long it is done by "their guy", mindless.
 
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So can a recess appointment be made 3AM any night of the year? Is it legitimate to use this process for people who have not been held up in a filibuster type process. How about "signing documents" which Bush and Obama use to sign a law but point out that they will not fulfill parts they do not like.

Tired of folks like you who are fine with whatever, as long it is done by "their guy", mindless.

oh, so you're ok with pro forma sessions to make it appear that Congress is NEVER in recess all year long, so as to prevent any recess appointments by POTUS?
 
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We are still waiting for you to provide where Boenher gave Reid the permission to recess pursuant to the Constitution...You haven't done that yet, why? If it is so laughable to you, and we conservatives are all just partisan whiners, then where is that part of the argument? Why do you keep ignoring it?


j-mac

ehh......neither house was in session on January 4th.

hence, the recess appointments were legal.
 
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oh, so you're ok with pro forma sessions to make it appear that Congress is NEVER in recess all year long, so as to prevent any recess appointments by POTUS?

Those are the rules in place. Don't like em? Change em. But you can't just ignore rules you don't like when they are convenient to you. And a good point that you seem to ignore, is that Reid is the Majority leader of the Senate for Christ sake! He has the ability to bring forth rules changes, nominations, or any other damned business he wants at any time....Your being duped if you think that a minority in the Senate is doing anything Reid doesn't want to happen.

j-mac
 
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ehh......neither house was in session on January 4th.

hence, the recess appointments were legal.

They we in pro forma session according to Senate rules, and in accordance with the Constitution.

You are dodging the question. Why?

j-mac
 
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The Libbos didn't seem to mind when the Democrats did it.
Of course they didn't mind, liberals are results oriented and have no problem being uber hypocrites and liars if that is what it takes to advance their anti-Constitution agenda.
 
Re: Democrat NLRB ‘recess’ appointments rushed, don’t appear on White House nominee l

They we in pro forma session according to Senate rules, and in accordance with the Constitution.

You are dodging the question. Why?

j-mac

please show in the Constitution where it says the Senate is in session even if they don't have a quorum.

It says they MUST have 51% to do business. If you can't do business, then the Senate isn't really in session.

without 51 members, they can't vote on nominees or even filibuster them, thereby making a Recess appointment legal.
 
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some folks here seem to be suggesting that 5 Senators can show up for work, and therefore the Senate is in session.

they can't pass any laws, they can't hold any votes. but they are still in session.

bull****. if you can't do your job, the Senate is not truly in session.
 
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Harry Reid used pro forma sessions to block Bush's nominations for years. He bragged about this while he was doing it.


July 29, 2008


Categories:
Leadership

Reid may shortchange August break with "pro forma" sessions

Majority Leader Harry Reid may get the last laugh on Senate Republicans who are vowing to oppose adjournment for the long August recess.

Reid is considering simply adjourning Friday for the weekend and scheduling very short "pro forma" sessions throughout the August recess. The move would not only prevent President Bush from making recess appointments on controversial executive nominations, it would short circuit efforts by Senate Republicans who would like to filibuster any adjournment resolution in the Senate on Friday night.

Senate aides caution that no final decisions have been made on the schedule, but the pro-forma sessions are under consideration.

GOP Senate leaders have said they will try to block adjournment if the Senate does not vote on a wide range of energy proposals aimed at reducing the cost of gas. But if there is no formal adjournment, there's really nothing for the Republicans to block.

Pro forma sessions are really just a procedural tool designed to stymie presidential power over nominations. Reid held several pro forma sessions over the Christmas holiday to block Bush judicial nominees, and the sessions rarely lasted more than 30 seconds.

Reid's maneuver would represent the latest salvo in what has been an increasingly ugly week in the Senate, with stalled debate on energy and a package of bills blocked by Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.).

On the other side of the argument at that time was Reid, who began holding pro forma sessions in 2007 to block Bush nominees.


"I had to keep the Senate in pro-forma session to block the Bradbury appointment. That necessarily meant no recess appointments could be made," he said on the Senate floor in 2008, as Democrats blocked a potential recess appointment of Steven Bradbury to be the assistant attorney general for the Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel in the Bush administration. Bradbury is one of the attorneys cited by the Obama White House in justifying the Cordray move.


Get a load of this BS, Reid just used a pro forma session in May of 2011.

Harry Reid’s ‘Pro Forma’ Leadership


By Andrew Stiles

May 27, 2011 8:37 A.M.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D., Nev.) is up to his usual tricks, opting not to fully adjourn the Senate for what would have been a week-long recess for the Memorial Day holiday. Instead, the Senate will have to convene for three short “pro forma” sessions over the next ten days.

Earlier this week, Sen. Jeff Sessions (R., Ala.), ranking member on the Senate Budget Committee, had threatened to withhold his support for the unanimous consent agreement required to adjourn the Senate. Sessions did so out of protest against the Senate Democrats’ failure to produce a budget resolution more than a month after the April 15 deadline as required by law, not to mention their having gone more than 750 days without passing a budget.

Sessions’ threat, however, was merely symbolic in that Reid could always override the objection with a simple majority vote. Even if every single Republican opposed the unanimous consent to adjourn (and they would have), the Democrats could not prevent the Senate from adjourning. Simply put, Reid chose not to adjourn to spare Senate Democrats the indignity of voting themselves a vacation despite having failed to produce a budget. Not only that, but Democrats did not a cast a single vote in favor of any of the four budget resolutions brought to “pro forma” votes on Wednesday, including the one offered by President Obama, which failed spectacularly, 97 to 0.

“The Majority Leader’s decision not to bring adjournment to a vote — but instead to hold a series of pro forma sessions — is a stark admission that the Democrat Senate cannot justify to the American people its unwillingness to work on a budget,” Sessions said in a statement. “So indefensible is their stance that they have resorted to ducking a simple vote on whether to adjourn the chamber for Memorial Day recess.”

On the other hand, perhaps Reid wasn’t “ducking” such a vote, but wanted to spare himself the even greater indignity of being voted down by his own party. He would’ve been asking a lot of moderate Democrats up for reelection next year — Joe Manchin, Claire McCaskill, Jon Tester, and Ben Nelson, to name a few — by expecting them to go on the record in favor of adjournment, and it would have taken just three Democratic defections to block the measure.

The most significant implication of the pro forma session is that President Obama will be unable to make any federal appointments during the recess.
Some Republicans had feared Obama would use the opportunity to appoint the controversial Elizabeth Warren to head the equally controversial Consumer Financial Protection Bureau.

Beyond that, the Senate won’t be able to conduct any legislative business. But that would hardly be a change of pace for this “pro forma” Democratic majority.

One can always count on the liberals to rewrite the rules after the game has started.
 
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Harry Reid used pro forma sessions to block Bush's nominations for years. He bragged about this while he was doing it....

hey, if Bush did what Obama did, I would have had no problem.

if you play games with our government, expect other folks to play too.
 
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hey, if Bush did what Obama did, I would have had no problem.

if you play games with our government, expect other folks to play too.

Forgive me if I do not believe you for one minute. Had Bush pulled off the same crap BO just did, every single libtard in Congress would have been calling for his impeachment and the mainstream media would have gone apeship crazy.
 
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Is there a liberal here who can justify not even submitting the two names to the Senate while it was in normal session ?
 
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Is there a liberal here who can justify not even submitting the two names to the Senate while it was in normal session ?

Yes, of course. Republicans did not allow a vote on the REPUBLICAN nominee who had been twisting in the wind for a year. Submitting the Democratic appointees earlier would have made no difference whatsoever.
 
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Yes, of course. Republicans did not allow a vote on the REPUBLICAN nominee who had been twisting in the wind for a year. Submitting the Democratic appointees earlier would have made no difference whatsoever.

That it "makes no difference" ... can you show us that in the Constitution ? In the "Advise and Consent" protocols ? Does the Senate have a right, and obligation, to background check folks in performing their Constitutional role ?

I will have my hip waders on awaiting your reply. ;)
 
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That it "makes no difference" ... can you show us that in the Constitution ? In the "Advise and Consent" protocols ? Does the Senate have a right, and obligation, to background check folks in performing their Constitutional role ?

I will have my hip waders on awaiting your reply. ;)

Yes, they have that right and obligation, and they waived the right and defaulted on their obligation when they refused to carry it out. That's why we have recess appointments.
 
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oh, so you're ok with pro forma sessions to make it appear that Congress is NEVER in recess all year long, so as to prevent any recess appointments by POTUS?

I am as tired of the political games on both sides as I am of the folks on this site who blindly applaud when their side does something and demonizes whatever the other side does. It seems to me that it is the lemmings that allow politics as usual.
 
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I am as tired of the political games on both sides as I am of the folks on this site who blindly applaud when their side does something and demonizes whatever the other side does. It seems to me that it is the lemmings that allow politics as usual.

Well, at least your post is half truthful. The fact is that when President George Bush faced the same legal maneuver by Harry Reid in 2007 (and endorsed by then Senator Obama) with the appointment of Bradbury to Asst Atty Gen, Bush honored the Constitution. He did not make the pro-forma appointment. You can claim all you want about who you think applauded when, as you do not know, and we cannot document such. But what we can document is that the GOP did not go nuclear. Obama and the Democrats did. That is a fact.
 
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I think the whole idea of Congress wasting it's time (months sometimes) holding hearings about filling some position is a waste of their time and our money. Does the Constitution cover these hearings? Probably just "guy rules" to make the game more fun. What CEO doesn't have the power to hire and fire? The axe falls on him if it's a mistake...remember Brownie?
Agree,Maggie, but when the Senate becomes a bunch of spoiled children who want to take their ball home if they do not get their way,someone has to be the adult.

Obama was the adult in this case,saying,"OK,if you want to act that way,you are not playing at all!" End of story,start of whining.:eek:)
 
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I am as tired of the political games on both sides as I am of the folks on this site who blindly applaud when their side does something and demonizes whatever the other side does. It seems to me that it is the lemmings that allow politics as usual.

A Newbie here, but am already reaching that opinion:eek:)
 
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