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    Re: Democrat NLRB ‘recess’ appointments rushed, don’t appear on White House nominee l

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    I expect the next President to use and abuse the new precedent.

    Appointments no longer need to be listed by the White House, can be appointed at anytime there isn't a human body in the Senate, and all the President needs to say is "I felt that they weren't going to accept anyone".

    Its all good.
    Exactly. But what is most likely to happen is that a GOP President will respect the Constitution, as Bush did with Reid, while a Democrat will now always go nuclear. We all will suffer in the long run with the latter approach.

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    Re: Democrat NLRB ‘recess’ appointments rushed, don’t appear on White House nominee l

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    Plays a better hand ? LOL ..... when you play as this in a real poker game in the Wild Wild West, you get shot for cheating.

    The GOP followed the rules. Liberals whine because they disagree with the motive. But they followed the rules.

    Here, Obama does not follow the rules. To Hell with oversight. To hell with checking these folks out. And to hell with the same process he endorsed as a Senator. The jackass just put two folks on the NLRB via his own whim. Completely bypassed the Senate. Completely ignored the Constitution.

    And the libs cheer.
    Really? Show me what part of the Constitution Obama ignored.

    And, as an aside, since when is a partisan hack rag like the Daily Caller considered to be mainstream media? This belongs in blogs.
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    Re: Democrat NLRB ‘recess’ appointments rushed, don’t appear on White House nominee l

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Really? Show me what part of the Constitution Obama ignored.

    And, as an aside, since when is a partisan hack rag like the Daily Caller considered to be mainstream media? This belongs in blogs.
    The president can't make appointments while Congress is still in session. It's illegal. He broke the law. Period.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Democrat NLRB ‘recess’ appointments rushed, don’t appear on White House nominee l

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The president can't make appointments while Congress is still in session. It's illegal. He broke the law. Period.
    Perhaps the far right Konservative Kool-aid Konsumers should push for immediate impeachment? As soon as the House returns you should all get started on that right away.
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    Re: Democrat NLRB ‘recess’ appointments rushed, don’t appear on White House nominee l

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Perhaps the far right Konservative Kool-aid Konsumers should push for immediate impeachment? As soon as the House returns you should all get started on that right away.
    No, the appointment should nullified and Obama be issued a copy of the Constitution, so he can do some remedial training.
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    Re: Democrat NLRB ‘recess’ appointments rushed, don’t appear on White House nominee l

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    No, the appointment should nullified and Obama be issued a copy of the Constitution, so he can do some remedial training.
    And somehow, someway, you figured this out while the President of the USA and all the kings men did not?

    I strongly suspect that they did what they did and know damn well why they did it. I also strongly suspect that you can do one of two things about it
    1- take it while loudly bitching, whining, moaning and complaining about it for pure political partisan reasons, or
    2- start your impeachment hearings

    I am betting the ranch that even the massive kool-aid konsumers do not step into #2.
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    Re: Democrat NLRB ‘recess’ appointments rushed, don’t appear on White House nominee l

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    And somehow, someway, you figured this out while the President of the USA and all the kings men did not?

    I strongly suspect that they did what they did and know damn well why they did it. I also strongly suspect that you can do one of two things about it
    1- take it while loudly bitching, whining, moaning and complaining about it for pure political partisan reasons, or
    2- start your impeachment hearings

    I am betting the ranch that even the massive kool-aid konsumers do not step into #2.
    Oh, so now you're suggesting he knowingly and intentionally broke the law?

    I've seen Libbos call for the hangman's noose for much less, in the past. Why are ya'll so forgiving, now?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Democrat NLRB ‘recess’ appointments rushed, don’t appear on White House nominee l

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Really? Show me what part of the Constitution Obama ignored.

    And, as an aside, since when is a partisan hack rag like the Daily Caller considered to be mainstream media? This belongs in blogs.
    Read the thread. The Senate's obligation, and right, to advise and consent.

    Further, the links also reference Jay Carney, government sources, and other major media, addressing this issue.

    As noted, now a President can bypass the Senate on every nomination. Does not even need to submit the entity for the Senate to check the person out. Now you tell me if that was how the Founders drafted things up ? Thanks in advance.
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    Re: Democrat NLRB ‘recess’ appointments rushed, don’t appear on White House nominee l

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That's where he ****ed up...Congress was still in session.
    Then tell me where they are hiding. I haven't seen a one of them for weeks.

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    Re: Democrat NLRB ‘recess’ appointments rushed, don’t appear on White House nominee l

    All your whining is not only for naught, the more the Reps. in Congress even mention it the worse they will look in the eyes of most Americans. With an approval rating of 9%, Americans are fed up with Congress and the obstuctionist T's in particular.

    Constitutionally, President Obama could have gone further. He could have filled other executive branch positions that the Senate has been holding hostage for reasons unrelated to the merits of the nominees. He could have filled judicial vacancies. He could have used his power under Article II to adjourn Congress, thus creating his own recess of the Senate during which he could make these appointments.
    That President Obama has not gone to these lengths demonstrates a commendable inclination to continue to respect the Senate's confirmation power. It also continues a tradition of making recess judicial appointments only in extremely rare circumstances, in large part because - although such appointments are constitutional under the text - their limited duration stands in tension with the Framers' conspicuous commitment to judicial independence, embodied in the constitutional guarantee of lifetime tenure.

    Some Senate Republicans have apparently reacted to President Obama by threatening to be even less cooperative with the executive branch. But it's hard to see how much less cooperation they could offer. The intransigence of the House Tea Party Caucus, plus the GOP Senate minority's filibuster abuse, has rendered the 2011 session of Congress the least productive in terms of non-trivial legislation since the late 19th century. The White House has correctly discerned that the public has tired of this obstinacy. As Larry Lessig has said, our uncooperative Congress has earned approval ratings probably lower than the approval ratings of Parliament in the thirteen colonies on the eve of the American Revolution. (One suspects, if the public were yet more familiar with the bills the House was trying to pass, its opinion would actually be even lower.) For this reason, the White House is surely undaunted by the prospect of congressional hearings examining its appointments powers. The charts and graphs the Administration can produce illustrating the current Senate's unprecedented delays for even the most routine appointments would make for impressive video
    Peter M. Shane: Recess Appointments and President Obama's Surprising Restraint

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