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    Re: Democrat NLRB ‘recess’ appointments rushed, don’t appear on White House nominee l

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    ehh......neither house was in session on January 4th.

    hence, the recess appointments were legal.
    They we in pro forma session according to Senate rules, and in accordance with the Constitution.

    You are dodging the question. Why?

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    Re: Democrat NLRB ‘recess’ appointments rushed, don’t appear on White House nominee l

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The Libbos didn't seem to mind when the Democrats did it.
    Of course they didn't mind, liberals are results oriented and have no problem being uber hypocrites and liars if that is what it takes to advance their anti-Constitution agenda.
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    Re: Democrat NLRB ‘recess’ appointments rushed, don’t appear on White House nominee l

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    They we in pro forma session according to Senate rules, and in accordance with the Constitution.

    You are dodging the question. Why?

    j-mac
    please show in the Constitution where it says the Senate is in session even if they don't have a quorum.

    It says they MUST have 51% to do business. If you can't do business, then the Senate isn't really in session.

    without 51 members, they can't vote on nominees or even filibuster them, thereby making a Recess appointment legal.
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    Re: Democrat NLRB ‘recess’ appointments rushed, don’t appear on White House nominee l

    some folks here seem to be suggesting that 5 Senators can show up for work, and therefore the Senate is in session.

    they can't pass any laws, they can't hold any votes. but they are still in session.

    bull****. if you can't do your job, the Senate is not truly in session.

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    Re: Democrat NLRB ‘recess’ appointments rushed, don’t appear on White House nominee l

    Harry Reid used pro forma sessions to block Bush's nominations for years. He bragged about this while he was doing it.


    July 29, 2008


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    Reid may shortchange August break with "pro forma" sessions

    Majority Leader Harry Reid may get the last laugh on Senate Republicans who are vowing to oppose adjournment for the long August recess.

    Reid is considering simply adjourning Friday for the weekend and scheduling very short "pro forma" sessions throughout the August recess. The move would not only prevent President Bush from making recess appointments on controversial executive nominations, it would short circuit efforts by Senate Republicans who would like to filibuster any adjournment resolution in the Senate on Friday night.

    Senate aides caution that no final decisions have been made on the schedule, but the pro-forma sessions are under consideration.

    GOP Senate leaders have said they will try to block adjournment if the Senate does not vote on a wide range of energy proposals aimed at reducing the cost of gas. But if there is no formal adjournment, there's really nothing for the Republicans to block.

    Pro forma sessions are really just a procedural tool designed to stymie presidential power over nominations. Reid held several pro forma sessions over the Christmas holiday to block Bush judicial nominees, and the sessions rarely lasted more than 30 seconds.

    Reid's maneuver would represent the latest salvo in what has been an increasingly ugly week in the Senate, with stalled debate on energy and a package of bills blocked by Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.).
    On the other side of the argument at that time was Reid, who began holding pro forma sessions in 2007 to block Bush nominees.


    "I had to keep the Senate in pro-forma session to block the Bradbury appointment. That necessarily meant no recess appointments could be made," he said on the Senate floor in 2008, as Democrats blocked a potential recess appointment of Steven Bradbury to be the assistant attorney general for the Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel in the Bush administration. Bradbury is one of the attorneys cited by the Obama White House in justifying the Cordray move.

    Get a load of this BS, Reid just used a pro forma session in May of 2011.

    Harry Reid’s ‘Pro Forma’ Leadership


    By Andrew Stiles

    May 27, 2011 8:37 A.M.

    Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D., Nev.) is up to his usual tricks, opting not to fully adjourn the Senate for what would have been a week-long recess for the Memorial Day holiday. Instead, the Senate will have to convene for three short “pro forma” sessions over the next ten days.

    Earlier this week, Sen. Jeff Sessions (R., Ala.), ranking member on the Senate Budget Committee, had threatened to withhold his support for the unanimous consent agreement required to adjourn the Senate. Sessions did so out of protest against the Senate Democrats’ failure to produce a budget resolution more than a month after the April 15 deadline as required by law, not to mention their having gone more than 750 days without passing a budget.

    Sessions’ threat, however, was merely symbolic in that Reid could always override the objection with a simple majority vote. Even if every single Republican opposed the unanimous consent to adjourn (and they would have), the Democrats could not prevent the Senate from adjourning. Simply put, Reid chose not to adjourn to spare Senate Democrats the indignity of voting themselves a vacation despite having failed to produce a budget. Not only that, but Democrats did not a cast a single vote in favor of any of the four budget resolutions brought to “pro forma” votes on Wednesday, including the one offered by President Obama, which failed spectacularly, 97 to 0.

    “The Majority Leader’s decision not to bring adjournment to a vote — but instead to hold a series of pro forma sessions — is a stark admission that the Democrat Senate cannot justify to the American people its unwillingness to work on a budget,” Sessions said in a statement. “So indefensible is their stance that they have resorted to ducking a simple vote on whether to adjourn the chamber for Memorial Day recess.”

    On the other hand, perhaps Reid wasn’t “ducking” such a vote, but wanted to spare himself the even greater indignity of being voted down by his own party. He would’ve been asking a lot of moderate Democrats up for reelection next year — Joe Manchin, Claire McCaskill, Jon Tester, and Ben Nelson, to name a few — by expecting them to go on the record in favor of adjournment, and it would have taken just three Democratic defections to block the measure.

    The most significant implication of the pro forma session is that President Obama will be unable to make any federal appointments during the recess.
    Some Republicans had feared Obama would use the opportunity to appoint the controversial Elizabeth Warren to head the equally controversial Consumer Financial Protection Bureau.

    Beyond that, the Senate won’t be able to conduct any legislative business. But that would hardly be a change of pace for this “pro forma” Democratic majority.
    One can always count on the liberals to rewrite the rules after the game has started.
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    Re: Democrat NLRB ‘recess’ appointments rushed, don’t appear on White House nominee l

    Quote Originally Posted by conservativeguy View Post
    Harry Reid used pro forma sessions to block Bush's nominations for years. He bragged about this while he was doing it....
    hey, if Bush did what Obama did, I would have had no problem.

    if you play games with our government, expect other folks to play too.

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    Re: Democrat NLRB ‘recess’ appointments rushed, don’t appear on White House nominee l

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    hey, if Bush did what Obama did, I would have had no problem.

    if you play games with our government, expect other folks to play too.
    Forgive me if I do not believe you for one minute. Had Bush pulled off the same crap BO just did, every single libtard in Congress would have been calling for his impeachment and the mainstream media would have gone apeship crazy.
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    Re: Democrat NLRB ‘recess’ appointments rushed, don’t appear on White House nominee l

    Is there a liberal here who can justify not even submitting the two names to the Senate while it was in normal session ?

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    Re: Democrat NLRB ‘recess’ appointments rushed, don’t appear on White House nominee l

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    Is there a liberal here who can justify not even submitting the two names to the Senate while it was in normal session ?
    Yes, of course. Republicans did not allow a vote on the REPUBLICAN nominee who had been twisting in the wind for a year. Submitting the Democratic appointees earlier would have made no difference whatsoever.

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    Re: Democrat NLRB ‘recess’ appointments rushed, don’t appear on White House nominee l

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Yes, of course. Republicans did not allow a vote on the REPUBLICAN nominee who had been twisting in the wind for a year. Submitting the Democratic appointees earlier would have made no difference whatsoever.
    That it "makes no difference" ... can you show us that in the Constitution ? In the "Advise and Consent" protocols ? Does the Senate have a right, and obligation, to background check folks in performing their Constitutional role ?

    I will have my hip waders on awaiting your reply.

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