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Mitt Romney’s Son: Obama Should Release Birth Certificate, Grades

Shrub never served, Poppy got him a cushy spot in TX.

RayGun never served, just made movies.

Neither of them left US.
 
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TurtleDude said:
He has created wealth for some, has provided jobs for others, and did a bang up job running the Olympic Games

That did a lot for the nation-far more than most
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Were the Nachos tasty at the Olympics?

Personally I think 7-11 does a better job on the Nachos.
 
In business...

Romney's "jobs record" is a sham
Mitt Romney is attempting to establish himself as the Republican presidential candidate with the most credibility on job creation, but the former Massachusetts governor may have trouble defending his record. During Romney's tenure as governor, Massachusetts' job growth was bested by every state in the nation except three, including Hurricane Katrina-devastated Louisiana. As CEO of Bain Capital, Romney profited as five of the companies under his firm's direction went bankrupt, and thousands of workers lost their jobs. One particularly brutal round of firings came back to haunt Romney during his failed 1994 Senate campaign, when laid-off workers protested his candidacy.
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2002 Winter Olympics

Romney and Olympics
No one disputes that, in the end, the 2002 Winter Games were a brilliant success. But some argue that Utah's deep tradition of volunteerism, widespread support for the Olympic bid in the state and in the Mormon Church, and the global outpouring of goodwill -- and cash -- that followed the tragedy of the 9/11 terror attacks deserve much of the credit.

"Any well trained chimpanzee could have come in and had a successful Olympics," said Doug Foxley, a Salt Lake City lobbyist and former adviser to Romney's presidential rival Jon Huntsman, Jr.

Ken Bullock and other critics are driven to distraction by Romney's claim that he saved the games. But at the time he took little credit for himself, letting others cast him as the savior.

Nevertheless, Romney took a very public role in shaping the narrative of games -- from scandal to success. When Romney was brought in, he was pushed in front of the cameras, and he remained there. Bullock in particular felt that Romney controlled the story. "No one could have a difference of opinion," Bullock said.
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What state is that? I moved to SoCal from Ohio, b/c never required, have never taken a "road test", usually renew my license by mail or online. My b/c was lost decades ago.
 
Romney has displayed a great talent for a type of business that has come to symbolize much of the last thirty years. He has done very well for himself. If that amounts to serving his nation because he created wealth and some jobs, then the American people will have to pass judgment upon that claim.

As to the Olympic Games, he seems to have done a fine job in every respect. I not that he even contributed at least a million dollars to the games as well as turning down his on million dollar salary. By every measurement, the Games were a major success.
 
Friday13 said:
Shrub never served, Poppy got him a cushy spot in TX.

RayGun never served, just made movies.

Neither of them left US.
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Only true statement there is neither of them left the US.

Both served. As in were part of the military armed forces of the US. How about you shove the borderline inflammatory statements where the sun dont shine.
 
OpportunityCost said:
Only true statement there is neither of them left the US.

Both served. As in were part of the military armed forces of the US. How about you shove the borderline inflammatory statements where the sun dont shine.
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Yes, they served. For bush, though, it was part time.
 
Crosscheck said:
The fact that the Romneys don't serve in the military confirms the long tradition of the rich elite keeping their young from harms way while other young men are deemed expendable.
This goes back to the days of the college deferments which allowed the upper class an avenue to avoid the draft. It was felt that a young man working construction or farming was far more expendable than the young man studying sociology in college.
Oh but am certain the apologists will want to point out that the Romneys have served their country too. And am certain the Romneys have sacrificed much as the parents of Vietnam Veterans.
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So you don't have a problem with people who don't or can't serve ... unless you think it's because they're rich and elite. Oh well, so much for consistency.
 
TacticalEvilDan said:
So you don't have a problem with people who don't or can't serve ... unless you think it's because they're rich and elite. Oh well, so much for consistency.
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you can take it anyway you like, that's your perogative.

Myself if I was Commander in Chief, I would feel uncomfortable sending some other families' son or daughter to fight while not anyone of your 5 able bodied sons never volunteered nor did I or for that matter anybody in my family.

That is my opinion, you are entitled to yours. You can thank a vet for having that freedom of opinion.
 
Crosscheck said:
you can take it anyway you like, that's your perogative.
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This isn't "any way I like," I'm taking the most obvious and straightforward interpretation of what you've said.

Crosscheck said:
You can thank a vet for having that freedom of opinion.
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I prefer to thank my parents for my existence, and my parents and teachers for helping me to hone my mind, so that I'm capable of forming a coherent opinion to begin with. I'm not in the habit of thanking perfect strangers who, for all I know, may have had nothing whatsoever to do with who and what I am.
 
Crosscheck said:
The fact that the Romneys don't serve in the military confirms the long tradition of the rich elite keeping their young from harms way while other young men are deemed expendable.
This goes back to the days of the college deferments which allowed the upper class an avenue to avoid the draft. It was felt that a young man working construction or farming was far more expendable than the young man studying sociology in college.
Oh but am certain the apologists will want to point out that the Romneys have served their country too. And am certain the Romneys have sacrificed much as the parents of Vietnam Veterans.
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and that is a myth as well. I think through Vietnam Yale had supplied more officers to the US army than any other college in the country. Current volunteer military does not have a ton of poor people in it because they often cannot make the grade Two guys I know well (one a nephew) served in the special forces. The first guy, about my age was heir to a major league construction firm and grew up on a 50 acre estate in an area where land goes for 130K an acre. He did 6 years as ENLISTED in the SF. My nephew-the son of a Harvard and Michigan Law graduate, joined ROTC after 9-11 then went AIT then Rangers Two combat tours in Iraq, then another 14 month deployment in Afghanistan with the SF (currently a Captain). He didn't have to work a day in his life yet he's carrying 90 pounds of gear in the mountains of Afghanistan.
 
Romeny's son's should release their bowels.

Let me preface what I am going to say be explaining that I am not an Obama fan and I will not vote for him in November.

Think about all the crap this nation faces, think about all the things Obama promised to do but didn't. Think about how he handed all the money to Wall Street and god knows who else. There are many reasons a worthy candidate could make a strong case for replacing Obama. There are many ways a good candidate could exhibit leadership and to propose real solutions to domestic and international issues. But, no we have Romney's kids beating the birth certificate and grades issues. Why? Because Romney isn't that strong on issues. Romney doesn't have a message that he can stand if front of.

Most people don't want Romney. It's difficult to know what the GOP will get, but the GOP will get what the GOP powers want it to have. The super money, the super secret money is now flowing into Iowa. Foreign powers, corporations and people with deep pockets are pouring money into Iowa because they can. Money not votes will decide who becomes the GOP candidate. And the GOP will direct how most of the money flows.
 
Doesnt it seem at least a LITTLE bit moronic complaining about Romneys lack of military service while voting for a guy with no military service...because Romney might not have the proper perspective when sending our kids to war...but...Obama...well...I mean Biden...errrr...I mean Clinton....ummmm.....

Lots of reasons to not vote for Romney. and maybe in someones heart of hearts this is a legit reason to not vote for him as well...unless of course you ignore the fact you vote for a guy that has the same flaws...

Never mind...it just makes zero sense. You are a hack...just admit it...
 
Just a joke, but Obama has released proof of his citizenship, so the joke seems to be on this kid.

Mitt Romney should release his tax returns.
 
Krhazy said:
Just a joke, but Obama has released proof of his citizenship, so the joke seems to be on this kid.

Mitt Romney should release his tax returns.
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why............?
 
Top Cat said:
Oh yeah. You have to love the "Oh, I was just kidding!" excuse. As if he didn't know precisely what he was doing? really?
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So, is Mitt running for president. Or Mitt's kid?

Tell you what...if it makes you feel better, don't vote for Matt.
 
apdst said:
So, is Mitt running for president. Or Mitt's kid?

Tell you what...if it makes you feel better, don't vote for Matt.
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Mitt could have the DSC, the Silver Star and the CMOH and I doubt Top Cat would vote for him
 
apdst said:
So, is Mitt running for president. Or Mitt's kid?

Tell you what...if it makes you feel better, don't vote for Matt.
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Oddly, this is the most relevant post in the thread. I just don't give a **** what Romney's kid wants. He is not running for any office I care about.
 
TurtleDude said:
Krhazy said:
Just a joke, but Obama has released proof of his citizenship, so the joke seems to be on this kid.

Mitt Romney should release his tax returns.
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why............?
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He doesn't have to release his tax returns, but then people don't need to vote for him either.
We will see....
 
pbrauer said:
He doesn't have to release his tax returns, but then people don't need to vote for him either.
We will see....
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what is your point, you wouldn't vote for him no matter what he did.
 
TurtleDude said:
what is your point, you wouldn't vote for him no matter what he did.
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That's correct, I won't vote for him. There are millions of voters and I suspect many will want to know what he's hiding. I would bet you that if President Obama didn't release his tax return, the Right Wing would make it an issue.
 
pbrauer said:
That's correct, I won't vote for him. There are millions of voters and I suspect many will want to know what he's hiding. I would bet you that if President Obama didn't release his tax return, the Right Wing would make it an issue.
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he didn't release his college record despite braying about his harvard law review experience

wonder why?
 
The fact that the government uses the "what've you got to hide" line to justify wanting access to more information and greater authority doesn't make it a legitimate response to a politician treating private matters as private matters.

We're not going to win a privacy debate with them by playing turnabout, we're going to win it by using situations like these to make a point in favor of privacy.
 
TurtleDude said:
he didn't release his college record despite braying about his harvard law review experience

wonder why?
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That's for the voting public to judge. :shrug:
 
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