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    Re: brutal suicide in near my home: woman jumps out of SUV on I-75 in Cincinnati area

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    This is why I boycott Christmas every year, never purchase gifts for anyone and request that no on purchase gifts for me. If someone wants to "gift" me, donate money to charity or choose to spend the day doing something with me. Those are the "gifts" I give other people.
    Yep, fortunately even though I have many friends we all pretty much leave giving to family situations. We usually hang out somewhere during the holidays and watch a bowl game and trade rounds, years ago I rebuilt a Zippo I found and my best friend had always wanted one but didn't want to spend the money. I gave him the lighter and told him it was an in the moment gift for a good friend which meant more to him than if I'd bought him something.
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    Re: brutal suicide in near my home: woman jumps out of SUV on I-75 in Cincinnati area

    Quote Originally Posted by Enola View Post
    I don't think of it as selfish at all. Nor are they even thinking about how it affects others. People who go to this extreme are in pain..physically or mentally. For them, it's a release.
    This is accurate. It may SEEM selfish to the outsider, but imagine the pain that one must be in to choose to end their life, ignore all survival instincts, and to knowingly leave and hurt those they care about. Someone in this state of mind isn't thinking about others... or themselves. All they are thinking is that not being around is better/less painful than existence.
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    Re: brutal suicide in near my home: woman jumps out of SUV on I-75 in Cincinnati area

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Yep, fortunately even though I have many friends we all pretty much leave giving to family situations. We usually hang out somewhere during the holidays and watch a bowl game and trade rounds, years ago I rebuilt a Zippo I found and my best friend had always wanted one but didn't want to spend the money. I gave him the lighter and told him it was an in the moment gift for a good friend which meant more to him than if I'd bought him something.
    Best gift I EVER gave a friend was something that I got completely for free. Long story. He always said he wanted to be buried with it. When he died, it was too big to fit in his coffin. I just know that the pleasure he got from receiving it was better than any purchased gift he ever got.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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    Re: brutal suicide in near my home: woman jumps out of SUV on I-75 in Cincinnati area

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Best gift I EVER gave a friend was something that I got completely for free. Long story. He always said he wanted to be buried with it. When he died, it was too big to fit in his coffin. I just know that the pleasure he got from receiving it was better than any purchased gift he ever got.
    Honestly a gift tells someone you care, or that's what it's supposed to mean anyway. It's stressful and meaningless if the gifts are obligatory.
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    Re: brutal suicide in near my home: woman jumps out of SUV on I-75 in Cincinnati area

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Honestly a gift tells someone you care, or that's what it's supposed to mean anyway. It's stressful and meaningless if the gifts are obligatory.
    That's why I hate so much the "this is my Christmas list" mentality. No. Un-uh. No Christmas list. You can give me ideas, but gifts that I buy my family and friends are gifts that I choose - from the heart. Things that I think they would like. I guess that's why I get my feelings hurt so easily when someone doesn't necessarily care for a gift that I buy them. It doesn't happen that often - happened alot with my stepson. He'd open a gift, look at me and his Dad and go, "Why the heck did you buy me THIS? I'm not going to use THIS." and he'd throw it back in the packaging. That used to hurt, then I found out that the kid is just a freaking nutcase and then it didn't bother me anymore.

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    Re: brutal suicide in near my home: woman jumps out of SUV on I-75 in Cincinnati area

    Quote Originally Posted by Enola View Post
    I don't think of it as selfish at all. Nor are they even thinking about how it affects others. People who go to this extreme are in pain..physically or mentally. For them, it's a release.
    I do understand that. I do. I've been through some reeeeeeally rough spots in my life, but never once have I ever contemplated suicide. It's a religious thing with me. That being said, for all the pain that they are going through, why not talk to someone? A spouse? A parent? Someone in the clergy? If there's no one there, how about a suicide hotline? They are open 24 hours a day.

    As was mentioned earlier, I feel terribly sorry for people who are end-stage who take their own life. People like that, I don't begrudge their decision in the least. People like this woman? I still stand my original statement that she is selfish. So she was in pain. Alot of people are in pain, and they take the time to seek someone out to help them. All this woman did is ruin the lives of her children. That's why I say she was selfish. The lives of those children are ruined forever. This is something they'll see for the rest of their lives. All because she couldn't pick up a phone and ask for help.

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    Re: brutal suicide in near my home: woman jumps out of SUV on I-75 in Cincinnati area

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    I do understand that. I do. I've been through some reeeeeeally rough spots in my life, but never once have I ever contemplated suicide. It's a religious thing with me. That being said, for all the pain that they are going through, why not talk to someone? A spouse? A parent? Someone in the clergy? If there's no one there, how about a suicide hotline? They are open 24 hours a day.

    As was mentioned earlier, I feel terribly sorry for people who are end-stage who take their own life. People like that, I don't begrudge their decision in the least. People like this woman? I still stand my original statement that she is selfish. So she was in pain. Alot of people are in pain, and they take the time to seek someone out to help them. All this woman did is ruin the lives of her children. That's why I say she was selfish. The lives of those children are ruined forever. This is something they'll see for the rest of their lives. All because she couldn't pick up a phone and ask for help.
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    Re: brutal suicide in near my home: woman jumps out of SUV on I-75 in Cincinnati area

    True - their lives have taken a very different and tragic turn. . . but that doesn't mean she hated them. The love of your children doesn't mean your life is tolerable in your mind. It's highly likely she felt they'd be better off without her. . . who knows what she was thinking. Countless possibilities - I'd look more at her relationship with her husband, though - not the children.
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    Re: brutal suicide in near my home: woman jumps out of SUV on I-75 in Cincinnati area

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    I have seen news stories of people unbuckling and jumping out of a car to escape something bad happening inside the vehicle. It's just a strange way to kill yourself... If she did kill herself in that fashion, it is very, very sad. It seems like a split second decision, because when people spent time considering suicide, they probably don't think of jumping out of a car as the way to go. I have heard that most women OD on pills, and men, I believe, typically kill themselves with a gun. Suicide is so horrible. I feel bad for those children and husband.
    i feel bad for them as well, and women don't usually kill themselves in violent ways. she must have been pretty disturbed.

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    Re: brutal suicide in near my home: woman jumps out of SUV on I-75 in Cincinnati area

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Bolded statement screams, "I don't understand (or believe in) mental illness." Educate yourself.
    That's pretty harsh. Sometimes, suicide is selfish, and sometimes, it's an act of cowardice. It's not always because of mental illness (unless, of course, you believe that, by definition, anybody who kills him/herself is "crazy").

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