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Exactly!

Thanks for answering my question.



Thanks. You saved me some time.

Yeah, not all of them were racist. Yeah, some of them were. Any attempt to get more specific than that is going to be a long, drawn out, ultimately failed thread.

Right, because the claim that "tons" of Southern Democrats switched parties, for purely racist reasons is erroneous.
 
I wouldn't have any problem proving that. However, don't mistake that statement for saying that they were motivated by racism.

That's the claim made by by Thunder, which has brought us to where we are. That's the claim that I'm making a docs call for and so far, those making that claim have failed miserably.
 
Right, because the claim that "tons" of Southern Democrats switched parties, for purely racist reasons is erroneous.

So it's an argument over what "tons" means. Like I said, it will go nowhere. The fact is that lots were racist and lots weren't, and probably plenty left for both racist and non-racist reasons. Nobody will win this.
 
So it's an argument over what "tons" means. Like I said, it will go nowhere. The fact is that lots were racist and lots weren't, and probably plenty left for both racist and non-racist reasons. Nobody will win this.

No, we all can figure out what, "tons", means. It obviously equates to, "a lot", "large number", "a bunch", or, "many".

Let me help you out again: The claim was made that a lot of Southern Democrats switched parties, for racist reasons and therefore all Republicans are racists. I'm still waiting on the docs to support any part, or all of that claim.
 
No, we all can figure out what, "tons", means. It obviously equates to, "a lot", "large number", "a bunch", or, "many".

And it's true that tons, alot, a large number, a bunch, and many left the party due to racism.

None of those are very precise, are they? That's why this will end badly. Don't say I didn't warn you, and don't drag me into it.

Let me help you out again: The claim was made that a lot of Southern Democrats switched parties, for racist reasons and therefore all Republicans are racists. I'm still waiting on the docs to support any part, or all of that claim.

I have already said not all Republicans are racist. Some are though. And that's as far as this will get.
 
Bingo. Incredible, but true.
 
I didn't claim all Republicans were racist. Only a sizable number of them are - most of them located in the deep south. Nor did I claim a 'ton' of Southern Democrats switched parties. But a hell of a lot of them did. Which is why, during national elections, the once solid Democratic South is a bright red on the political maps. This isn't rocket science.
 
Well, obviously, you don't know what primary source documentation is, because so far, you've only posted secondary cource documentation.

HINT: Opeds aren't primary source docs. :lamo

What difference does it make? You don't accept the validity of source documents even when they are provided, as the Rebel secessionist statements were.
 
Nope, not disputing that at all. Try and keep up, huh?

Of course you're denying it. That's what this entire debate is about.
 
Yeah, we were much better off when those minority families were workin' for white people, cleaning their toilets and raising their children, in exchange for peanuts. I know they're the good old days to you folks, but you might possibly understand why they might not consider them so great.
If you honestly believe things are going well based on the welfare practices and garbage legislation that has been passed for decades with the intent on keeping crippled and dependent pets crippled, dependent, and voting democrat, then you are indeed just as big a part of the problem as are both major parties. Its idiotic of you to claim that people that believe what has happened for the last 30 years is destrictive and not at ALL helpful to minorites or low income folks in general are racist and want to see minorities oppressed...but somehow...frankly...you and 'idiotic' are a perfect match. Some of us do more and put our time and resources into actually helping folks than people that whine and bitch and call us 'racist' can ever conceive or will ever do. So...take your idiotic insinuation of racism and choke on em. Or if it makes you feel better...revel in them.
 
I didn't claim all Republicans were racist. Only a sizable number of them are - most of them located in the deep south. Nor did I claim a 'ton' of Southern Democrats switched parties. But a hell of a lot of them did. Which is why, during national elections, the once solid Democratic South is a bright red on the political maps. This isn't rocket science.

sizable number of them? I think that is specious. But we do know something. The only party that supports De Jure racism is the dems and that is the policy of affirmative action which discriminates based on race
 
sizable number of them? I think that is specious. But we do know something. The only party that supports De Jure racism is the dems and that is the policy of affirmative action which discriminates based on race

Spoken like a true right wing devotee. Tell us how white folks in this country are the victims of such terrible discrimination. Must be why we live longer, have a higher standard of living, and generally control every aspect of life in the United States.

You guys on the right are amazing.
 
If you honestly believe things are going well based on the welfare practices and garbage legislation that has been passed for decades with the intent on keeping crippled and dependent pets crippled, dependent, and voting democrat, then you are indeed just as big a part of the problem as are both major parties. Its idiotic of you to claim that people that believe what has happened for the last 30 years is destrictive and not at ALL helpful to minorites or low income folks in general are racist and want to see minorities oppressed...but somehow...frankly...you and 'idiotic' are a perfect match. Some of us do more and put our time and resources into actually helping folks than people that whine and bitch and call us 'racist' can ever conceive or will ever do. So...take your idiotic insinuation of racism and choke on em. Or if it makes you feel better...revel in them.

Look, I understand that the term 'racist' is an uncomfortable one to own. But when you claim minorities (or pets, as you so sensitively refer to them) are worse off now than they were under racist Jim Crow laws, then it's difficult coming up with another word that describes people with that attitude.

The one consolation is that the demographics are going to kill you. Having succeeded, as a party, in virtually eliminating the chance than black people will vote for your candidates, you are now working on the Hispanics. Keep up the good work!
 
Spoken like a true right wing devotee. Tell us how white folks in this country are the victims of such terrible discrimination. Must be why we live longer, have a higher standard of living, and generally control every aspect of life in the United States.

You guys on the right are amazing.

How many black applicants to universities today were victims of discrimination.

and I find your evasions pathetic. Tell me why a rich black kid with piss poor grades and crappy SAT scores deserves a slot at some top college over a lower middle class white kid with better grades and intelligence?
 
Look, I understand that the term 'racist' is an uncomfortable one to own. But when you claim minorities (or pets, as you so sensitively refer to them) are worse off now than they were under racist Jim Crow laws, then it's difficult coming up with another word that describes people with that attitude.

The one consolation is that the demographics are going to kill you. Having succeeded, as a party, in virtually eliminating the chance than black people will vote for your candidates, you are now working on the Hispanics. Keep up the good work!

THere is no doubt that the dem party has a vested interest in keeping blacks dependent on the dem party
 
Look, I understand that the term 'racist' is an uncomfortable one to own. But when you claim minorities (or pets, as you so sensitively refer to them) are worse off now than they were under racist Jim Crow laws, then it's difficult coming up with another word that describes people with that attitude.

The one consolation is that the demographics are going to kill you. Having succeeded, as a party, in virtually eliminating the chance than black people will vote for your candidates, you are now working on the Hispanics. Keep up the good work!
pets is how liberals view minorites and the low income of this country. keep them nice, crippled, and voting for that cheese. Its pretty pathetic. But hey...at least its symbiotic. Thats why liberals lose their mind whenever minorities demonstrate through hard work that they can achieve success...threatens that whole balance of power thing. The reality is that people dont achieve success through the liberal policies. They achieve dependent status through following democrat programs. But thats the way dems like them...weak...dependent...and hey...dont forget to vote! Early and often!
 
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THere is no doubt that the dem party has a vested interest in keeping blacks dependent on the dem party

"dependent"? What's that mean? Is it any different from making business or rich people "dependent" on the GOP for keeping taxes low?
 
"dependent"? What's that mean? Is it any different from making business or rich people "dependent" on the GOP for keeping taxes low?

are you really unaware of the answer?

not taking as much of my wealth doesn't make me dependent on government or a party any more than staying well makes me more dependent on doctors
 
Did apdst seriously deny that the Southern Strategy is a fact for 4 pages? The sheer insanity posted on this board from time to time.

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Did apdst seriously deny that the Southern Strategy is a fact for 4 pages? The sheer insanity posted on this board from time to time.

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No, he didn't. Do try and get with the program, please.
 
I didn't claim all Republicans were racist. Only a sizable number of them are - most of them located in the deep south. Nor did I claim a 'ton' of Southern Democrats switched parties. But a hell of a lot of them did. Which is why, during national elections, the once solid Democratic South is a bright red on the political maps. This isn't rocket science.

You said that all Republicans mirrored the platform of the KKK. Sounds like your claiming that all Republicans are racists to me.
 
And it's true that tons, alot, a large number, a bunch, and many left the party due to racism.

None of those are very precise, are they? That's why this will end badly. Don't say I didn't warn you, and don't drag me into it.



I have already said not all Republicans are racist. Some are though. And that's as far as this will get.

Ok...post the evidence. Shouldn't be a problem.
 
What difference does it make? You don't accept the validity of source documents even when they are provided, as the Rebel secessionist statements were.


An oped isn't a source, dude. How many times do you have to be told that?
 
Look, I understand that the term 'racist' is an uncomfortable one to own. But when you claim minorities (or pets, as you so sensitively refer to them) are worse off now than they were under racist Jim Crow laws, then it's difficult coming up with another word that describes people with that attitude.

The one consolation is that the demographics are going to kill you. Having succeeded, as a party, in virtually eliminating the chance than black people will vote for your candidates, you are now working on the Hispanics. Keep up the good work!

The only way to get rid of Jim Crow was to force blacks to become dependent on government handouts?

Your lack of confidence in the black race blows me away.
 
Spoken like a true right wing devotee. Tell us how white folks in this country are the victims of such terrible discrimination. Must be why we live longer, have a higher standard of living, and generally control every aspect of life in the United States.

You guys on the right are amazing.

Didn't you just say that not all Right Wingers are racists?
 
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