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    Re: Obama threatened, called 'monkey' by ex-Carson council candidate

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    ...No, but its suggesting he'll be emasculated ("belle of the ball") because he'll be ****ed in the ass, which is insinuating that being ****ed in the ass makes one less masculine.
    we are in complete agreement on this.

    however, to suggest that being raped in prison is somehow related to homosexuality or homophobia, is stupid and shows a lack of understanding of the issues involved.

    rape is about power, not sexuality. especially in prison.

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    Re: Obama threatened, called 'monkey' by ex-Carson council candidate

    Quote Originally Posted by Meathead View Post
    Was it so long ago that people have forgotten?

    George Bush and Monkey Look-Alikes - Bush Monkey Photos

    Yeah, he was wrong, but then selective indignation is a bit hypocritical.
    You realize there's a difference betwen comparing George Bush to a monkey based on looks, and just broadly calling CHLIDREN who are black "monkeys" with no context or reference at all as to your meaning OTHER than the fact in the same sentence you used the word nigger as well...right?

    The two situations are HUGELY different.

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    Re: Obama threatened, called 'monkey' by ex-Carson council candidate

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    You realize there's a difference betwen comparing George Bush to a monkey based on looks, and just broadly calling CHLIDREN who are black "monkeys" with no context or reference at all as to your meaning OTHER than the fact in the same sentence you used the word nigger as well...right?

    The two situations are HUGELY different.
    They are and they aren't. We now what would happen if you replaced Bush's pictures with Obama's. I think it may have already happened actually.

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    Re: Obama threatened, called 'monkey' by ex-Carson council candidate

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    we are in complete agreement on this.

    however, to suggest that being raped in prison is somehow related to homosexuality or homophobia, is stupid and shows a lack of understanding of the issues involved.

    rape is about power, not sexuality. especially in prison.
    I may be wrong, but I believe what Rev was suggesting was that...based on the obvious negative corollary the OP made between anal sex and emasculation…that the presentation of “prison rape” as some kind of negative was not singularly based on the fact that “prison rape is homosexual” but rather that on the fact that prison rape = anal sex and anal sex = emasculation and emasculation = something worthy of being mocked.

    Had he just went “I hope he gets anally raped in prison” I think Rev may’ve said that’s barbaric or savage (as he’s stated) but the “homophobic” portion likely would not come into play. It’s the combination of both the “belle of the ball” comment mixed with the anal rape that gives an indication that it seems to be that homosexuality, or aspects often stereotypically related, is a negative thing that can act as some sort of “punishment” to the OP.

    You are attempting to take one part of his sentence, a part that was not his main focus in the original comment you had disagreement with, and focus on it without context which is inherently dishonest and purposefully attempting not to take in the entire situation. The OP’s post that Rev is referencing throughout this thread in his statements wasn’t JUST concerning anal rape, but specifically anal rape that would make one the “belle of the ball”

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    Re: Obama threatened, called 'monkey' by ex-Carson council candidate

    Quote Originally Posted by Meathead View Post
    They are and they aren't. We now what would happen if you replaced Bush's pictures with Obama's. I think it may have already happened actually.
    Which has 100% NOTHING to do with this thread. Obama wasn't drawn as a monkey, Obama wasn't called a monkey, Obama's Children were. Context surrounding most of the George Bush Monkey Pictures gave a clear indiciation the intent behind them was mocking either his 1) intellect or 2) appearance. The only context we have in this case to indicate why the individual would call obama's CHILDREN monkeys is the fact he also used a racial slur in the process.

    No, they're nothing alike outside of the fact each situation had some human being referred to as a monkey, which is an incredibly shallow comparison between the two circumstances.

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    Re: Obama threatened, called 'monkey' by ex-Carson council candidate

    Look, I certainly condemn what that guy did and am perhaps on a tangent, but political correctness is my pet peeve. Many of those expressing righteous indignation at almost any slight at Obama were the same ones calling Bush a cocaine-snorting, draft-dodging, baby-killing monkey. Everybody knows it just as everybody knows any equation of Obama's appearance or intellect with that of a monkey's would bring howls of racism.

    I certainly also agree that his kids are off-limits. The guy is clearly a bastard.
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    Re: Obama threatened, called 'monkey' by ex-Carson council candidate

    Quote Originally Posted by Meathead View Post
    Look, I certainly condemn what that guy did and am perhaps on a tangent, but political correctness is my pet peeve. Many of those expressing righteous indignation at almost any slight at Obama were the same ones calling Bush a cocaine-snorting, draft-dodging, baby-killing monkey. Everybody knows it just as everybody knows any equation of Obama's appearance or intellect with that of a monkey's would bring howls of racism.

    I certainly also agree that his kids are off-limits. The guy is clearly a bastard.
    You can show where the same people are doing both? Thank you in advance.
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    Re: Obama threatened, called 'monkey' by ex-Carson council candidate

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    You can show where the same people are doing both? Thank you in advance.
    Pleeeease!
    And you're welcome.

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    Re: Obama threatened, called 'monkey' by ex-Carson council candidate

    Quote Originally Posted by Meathead View Post
    Pleeeease!
    And you're welcome.
    I take it that is a no? So your whole claim kinda falls apart.
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