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    Re: Obama threatened, called 'monkey' by ex-Carson council candidate

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    That loud buzzer going BBBBBZZZZTTTTTT in the background is there to tell you that you failed to take the challenge. Nobody is disputing the numbers about the civil rights votes. That is clear. And you have conveniently ignored every single explanation that hs been presented to you regarding them.

    What you were challenged to do was to support with evidence from the historical record that Johnson was referring to those numbers when he made his famous comment about losing the South in future elections. That was your challenge.

    So where is that evidence from you own 'historical research'?

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    Present your evidence that LBJ somehow someway was deluded enough to believe that the Southern voter was actually going to embrace the GOP because Northern Republicans had voted for the civil rights bills. This should be good.
    Do you know the meaning of the word, "perhaps"? I wasn't making a factual claim.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Obama threatened, called 'monkey' by ex-Carson council candidate

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That's exactly what you're going to need, to prove yourself correct. Unless you can read their minds, that is.
    Yesterday apdst, I told you how historians prepare to do their work by taking methods of historical research courses while pursuing their degree in the field. I even went to the trouble of trying to help educate you by providing not one, not two, but three sources which would help you understand proper methodology of historical research. I did not use up valuable time for my benefit but to simply help you avoid the many mistakes you had already made in such areas like not giving proper weight to the statements of seceding states in 1861 which you repeatedly did.

    You got angry and bragged that you did not need such education and you did not need a degree on the wall to do historical research and draw proper conclusions.

    Your statement here proves to one and all just how badly you do need such training. Nobody is ever going to satisfy you and I told you repeatedly that you were engaging in intellectual fraud by setting the bar impossible high. I told you that you would accept no less that this fron those 127 Southern white Democrats who defected to the Republicans while few in other parts of the land did

    "Yes indeed America, I changed my party because I do so hate those African Americans and the party which is now sticking up for them so I am going to be a Republican from now because it is the new Southern White Peoples Party and I am a evil racist through and through from one side of my lily white body to the back side of my even whiter body on the ass side."
    I predicted that and you came through as predicted and said this in response

    That's exactly what you're going to need, to prove yourself correct. Unless you can read their minds, that is.

    You see apdst, one does not need to read minds. Again, this goes back to the academic training one in history goes through in order to properly interpret what there is available to the historian. One can read other sources from the era and combine it with election results and combine it with statements from the principals involved and combine it with other available data and make quite accurate and reasonable conclusions. You see apdst, that is the way the writing of history works.

    Mind reading is not necessary. Never was necessary. And it is simply silly for you to bring it up as the only thing which you will ever accept.
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    Re: Obama threatened, called 'monkey' by ex-Carson council candidate

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    Re: Obama threatened, called 'monkey' by ex-Carson council candidate

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Do you know the meaning of the word, "perhaps"? I wasn't making a factual claim.
    So are you saying that you reject your own allegation of the possible meaning of LBJ's words?
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    Re: Obama threatened, called 'monkey' by ex-Carson council candidate

    Margaret Sanger created the Negro Project, so the facts actually do support that claim. She gave a speech at klan rally on the subject of eugneics involving the black community in America. She was a Progressive.
    Her whole point was that disadvantage families should have less children so that they can better take care of those children. I see every conservative make thos same arguments when talking about welfare moms with 10 kids.
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    Re: Obama threatened, called 'monkey' by ex-Carson council candidate

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Her whole point was that disadvantage families should have less children so that they can better take care of those children. I see every conservative make thos same arguments when talking about welfare moms with 10 kids.
    I don't disagree with her point. I don't know of the woman, but there is wisdom in not having children you undoubtedly can't afford.

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    Re: Obama threatened, called 'monkey' by ex-Carson council candidate

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Margaret Sanger created the Negro Project,....
    Margaret Sanger represents modern-day Liberalism and modern-day Liberals?



    If that's the case, then Madison Grant represents modern-day Conservatives.

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    Re: Obama threatened, called 'monkey' by ex-Carson council candidate

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    I don't disagree with her point. I don't know of the woman, but there is wisdom in not having children you undoubtedly can't afford.
    Well apparently she's become the boogyman of the right yet apparently most conservatives would agree with her. Go figure.
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    Re: Obama threatened, called 'monkey' by ex-Carson council candidate

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    So are you saying that you reject your own allegation of the possible meaning of LBJ's words?
    I didn't, "alledge", anything. I only pointed out a possible alternate explanation of the meaning of his comments.

    It was yet another cue from someone to prove me wrong.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Obama threatened, called 'monkey' by ex-Carson council candidate

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Well apparently she's become the boogyman of the right yet apparently most conservatives would agree with her. Go figure.
    I don't know of the history between them. What matters to me is the wisdom of that one point of hers.

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