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    Re: Obama threatened, called 'monkey' by ex-Carson council candidate

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I want evidence that supports the claim that, "tons", od Southern Democrats switched to the Republican party for racist reasons and that the Republican party was made up of racists at the time the CRA was passed. Those are the claims that have been made, I'm asking for proof; how you prove it is your business.
    Would this be proof enough for you?

    1- a list of politicians who switched from the Democrat Party to the Republican Party during the period of the Civil Rights Movement and the implementation of the Southern Strategy.
    2- a mathematical analysis of that list which shows an inordinate percentage of Southern politicians making that jump as opposed to any other area of the nation.
    3- a list of politicians who at the same time switched from the Republican party during the same period
    4- a mathematical analysis of that same list and a comparison to show that it dwarfs the opposite list
    5- representative statements from the architects of the Southern Strategy

    Would all or a significant part of any of that constitute the proof you are looking for?
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    Re: Obama threatened, called 'monkey' by ex-Carson council candidate

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    A link to what? Do you understand what I am explaining to you? You are a layperson with no training in methodology of historical research. I am attempting to educate you on the basic errors and mistakes you have made and continue to make in the evaluation of what you call primary sources.
    Instead of trying to insult my intelligence by waving your highfalutin degree in my face, you need to go back to the two-bit college you got it from and demand your money back, because they ripped you off.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Obama threatened, called 'monkey' by ex-Carson council candidate

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Would this be proof enough for you?

    1- a list of politicians who switched from the Democrat Party to the Republican Party during the period of the Civil Rights Movement and the implementation of the Southern Strategy.
    2- a mathematical analysis of that list which shows an inordinate percentage of Southern politicians making that jump as opposed to any other area of the nation.
    3- a list of politicians who at the same time switched from the Republican party during the same period
    4- a mathematical analysis of that same list and a comparison to show that it dwarfs the opposite list
    5- representative statements from the architects of the Southern Strategy

    Would all or a significant part of any of that constitute the proof you are looking for?
    You don't know?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Obama threatened, called 'monkey' by ex-Carson council candidate

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Instead of trying to insult my intelligence by waving your highfalutin degree in my face, you need to go back to the two-bit college you got it from and demand your money back, because they ripped you off.
    apdst - It has been very obvious that you have made some fundamental mistakes in the methodology of historical research because of the repeated errors you make on the matter of Southern states secession and what explains it.



    Please try to put your own feelings and emotions to the side for a moment and read the articles I linked to. I do think they would be of great help to you in understanding the basic mistakes you are making in evaluating historical sources and what proper weight to give each.
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    Re: Obama threatened, called 'monkey' by ex-Carson council candidate

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You don't know?
    I am asking you if this would be proof enough to satisfy you.

    1- a list of politicians who switched from the Democrat Party to the Republican Party during the period of the Civil Rights Movement and the implementation of the Southern Strategy.
    2- a mathematical analysis of that list which shows an inordinate percentage of Southern politicians making that jump as opposed to any other area of the nation.
    3- a list of politicians who at the same time switched from the Republican party during the same period
    4- a mathematical analysis of that same list and a comparison to show that it dwarfs the opposite list
    5- representative statements from the architects of the Southern Strategy
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    Re: Obama threatened, called 'monkey' by ex-Carson council candidate

    I've already explained what claims I'm asking to be supported. I'll not do it again, because obviously, the people who made those claims can't come up with the evidence to do so.

    Until that evidence is put forward, I'm done with it.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Obama threatened, called 'monkey' by ex-Carson council candidate

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Did apdst seriously deny that the Southern Strategy is a fact for 4 pages? The sheer insanity posted on this board from time to time.

    No, it's how people on the right roll. It's sort of like blaming black people and democrats because they won't vote for Republicans. They couldn't possibly accept the fact that blacks - or hispanics - aren't going to vote for a political party than considers them second class citizens. Therefore, it must be their fault.

    As I said, the demographics are going to kill them politically in the end. They've already lost the black vote through their asinine policies and they're about to kiss goodbye to hispanic voters with their insane war on anybody with a brown skin.

    As a Democrat, I couldn't be happier.

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    Re: Obama threatened, called 'monkey' by ex-Carson council candidate

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    No, it's how people on the right roll. It's sort of like blaming black people and democrats because they won't vote for Republicans. They couldn't possibly accept the fact that blacks - or hispanics - aren't going to vote for a political party than considers them second class citizens. Therefore, it must be their fault.

    As I said, the demographics are going to kill them politically in the end. They've already lost the black vote through their asinine policies and they're about to kiss goodbye to hispanic voters with their insane war on anybody with a brown skin.

    As a Democrat, I couldn't be happier.
    What war is that?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Obama threatened, called 'monkey' by ex-Carson council candidate

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I've already explained what claims I'm asking to be supported. I'll not do it again, because obviously, the people who made those claims can't come up with the evidence to do so.

    Until that evidence is put forward, I'm done with it.
    You have made it quite clear that nothing anyone could present here would satisfy you. I gave you conditions that could me met with evidence and you repeatedly refused to say if you would accept that or not. One can only reasonably conclude that you do not want to say in advance that such evidence would indeed prove the point only to be handed that same evidence in a later post.
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