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    Re: Obama threatened, called 'monkey' by ex-Carson council candidate

    Sometimes I just dont get why this **** lasts more than one or two posts. Yes...the guy is a moron. Yes, the comments are racist and indefensible. Yes, it is equally idiotic though somewhat less despicable to use an idiot and his very obviously racist comments to then slap labels on everyone else somehow loosely affiliated.

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    Re: Obama threatened, called 'monkey' by ex-Carson council candidate

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Sometimes I just dont get why this **** lasts more than one or two posts. Yes...the guy is a moron. Yes, the comments are racist and indefensible. Yes, it is equally idiotic though somewhat less despicable to use an idiot and his very obviously racist comments to then slap labels on everyone else somehow loosely affiliated.
    I also agree with this...
    “Capitalism is the astounding belief that the most wickedest of men will do the most wickedest of things for the greatest good of everyone.” John Maynard Keynes

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    Re: Obama threatened, called 'monkey' by ex-Carson council candidate

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Sometimes I just dont get why this **** lasts more than one or two posts. Yes...the guy is a moron. Yes, the comments are racist and indefensible. Yes, it is equally idiotic though somewhat less despicable to use an idiot and his very obviously racist comments to then slap labels on everyone else somehow loosely affiliated.
    But this happens time and time again, with 'loosely' affiliated, and people at the top who run the websites.

    Like the other poster said, proving that the majority of TPs have racist tendencies, Impossible. But identify overt messages and subtle undertones is fair, no?

    The so called 'liberal' & 'leftist' is analyzed, defined, and identified 24/7 on RW media. They speculate and guess at sinister motivations behind everything Obama and the Dems do.

    At least with the TPs, we have these overt and in your face examples of what we believe is behind their agenda.

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    Re: Obama threatened, called 'monkey' by ex-Carson council candidate

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    But this happens time and time again, with 'loosely' affiliated, and people at the top who run the websites.

    Like the other poster said, proving that the majority of TPs have racist tendencies, Impossible. But identify overt messages and subtle undertones is fair, no?

    The so called 'liberal' & 'leftist' is analyzed, defined, and identified 24/7 on RW media. They speculate and guess at sinister motivations behind everything Obama and the Dems do.

    At least with the TPs, we have these overt and in your face examples of what we believe is behind their agenda.
    Sure. Therefore pointing out the idiotic statements of a fair sampling of democrats means we can and should label democrats, especially when we specifically look for the worst examples possible to 'prove' the point?

    You mean this guy...this...what was he again...a failed candidate...provides you an 'overt' example of people in the Tea Party? horse****. Before this obscure racists twatwaddle made his idiotic comment and posted it on Facebook you wouldn't have been able to spell his name, let alone know who he was or pick him out of a line-up (and I'm not altogether sure you can now).

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    Re: Obama threatened, called 'monkey' by ex-Carson council candidate

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    Good Lord. I can only imagine that heaven and earth must have to move before you'll admit you were wrong.
    You have a pretty poor imagination. I admitted I was wrong in the midst of a debate on this very forum yesterday. I have no issue admitting I'm wrong, when I'm wrong.

    The following is in the OP's quotation.
    I know this may shock you, a lot of people skim over the news blurbs for what the OP is saying and the general gist of the story. Its unfortunate, but its common on this and most other forums I've been on. A quick reading could make cause someone to think that the second sentence is referring back to the "monkey" statement as the racial epithet. Liblady clearly and blatantly laid it out, and I'll fully admit that I didn't fully realize that was what his statement was until I saw her statement.

    Really? You're going to defend them even though that was on the original quote? Really?
    Based on the context of Tess's quotes, yeah...it seems clear she missed that part.

    At the very least you should be suggesting that people read the post before making an ass of themselves.
    Well yes. And I've had no issue going after those that are trying to make this out as if it wasn't a racist comment. Pointing out people making stupid accusations, like your accusation towards VanceMack of "Deflecting and defending", doesn't preclude me from pointing out other stupid statements as well.

    What the guy said was abhorrent, both for threatening the President and for the racial slurs and for the attacks on the children. People attempting to slur thousands upon thousands of people based on this one mans actions, or people wrongfully suggesting individuals are defending this guy, are also acting rather abhorrent.

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    Re: Obama threatened, called 'monkey' by ex-Carson council candidate

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    I wonder what failed presidential candidate and democrat David Duke thinks of Obama and how quickly we can or should label all democrats based on such loose associations.

    Yet another thread that paints a far more despicable picture of the OP than the people he is attempting to schmear.
    David Duke switched parties, to Republican, in 1989... :/ Not that you're throwing in any red herrings but just thought you should update. Eventually, all racist Democrats go Republican...
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    Re: Obama threatened, called 'monkey' by ex-Carson council candidate

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    David Duke switched parties, to Republican, in 1989... :/ Not that you're throwing in any red herrings but just thought you should update. Eventually, all racist Democrats go Republican...
    or they pretend to be young money millionaires...right?

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    Re: Obama threatened, called 'monkey' by ex-Carson council candidate

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    You have a pretty poor imagination. I admitted I was wrong in the midst of a debate on this very forum yesterday. I have no issue admitting I'm wrong, when I'm wrong.
    Well if only I followed you around in search of eternal wisdom?

    I know this may shock you, a lot of people skim over the news blurbs for what the OP is saying and the general gist of the story. Its unfortunate, but its common on this and most other forums I've been on. A quick reading could make cause someone to think that the second sentence is referring back to the "monkey" statement as the racial epithet. Liblady clearly and blatantly laid it out, and I'll fully admit that I didn't fully realize that was what his statement was until I saw her statement.
    This is the entire quote. Yeah, all of 5 sentences. So easy to miss stuff here. Seriously? And here you are still defending stupidity.

    Jules Manson, who ran for office on a Libertarian platform in the Carson race in March, called Obama a "monkey" in an online screed on the passage of the National Defense Authorization Act. The act has raised the ire of activists because it permits indefinite detention without trial for some terrorism suspects.In a comment on the Facebook post, Manson added:
    "Assassinate the [president] and his monkey children." He used an obscenity followed by a racial epithet to describe the president. The post had been removed from Manson's Facebook page Tuesday, but the blog Your Black Politics captured and posted a screenshot of it, including the coarse language.

    Pointing out people making stupid accusations, like your accusation towards VanceMack of "Deflecting and defending", doesn't preclude me from pointing out other stupid statements as well.
    I stand by my accusations. that is precisely what he was doing. Funny, he hasn't said a word.

    What the guy said was abhorrent, both for threatening the President and for the racial slurs and for the attacks on the children. People attempting to slur thousands upon thousands of people based on this one mans actions, or people wrongfully suggesting individuals are defending this guy, are also acting rather abhorrent.
    WTF does that have to do with what I said? Oh wait, NOTHING.

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    Re: Obama threatened, called 'monkey' by ex-Carson council candidate

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Sure. Therefore pointing out the idiotic statements of a fair sampling of democrats means we can and should label democrats, especially when we specifically look for the worst examples possible to 'prove' the point?
    Label them what? Democrats with whom I don't agree? Nothing wrong with that.

    I already conceded, the point can't be proved. But we can ask, what is behind all the harsh and often false attacks? AND, we can identify the overt cases as well.

    You mean this guy...this...what was he again...a failed candidate...provides you an 'overt' example of people in the Tea Party? horse****. Before this obscure racists twatwaddle made his idiotic comment and posted it on Facebook you wouldn't have been able to spell his name, let alone know who he was or pick him out of a line-up (and I'm not altogether sure you can now).
    Please don't put words into my mouth -- I said his speech is overtly racist. It's in your face. And there is no a way a logical person can argue otherwise. It's another example of someone in the TP making a racist statement. How many other feel the same way but keep it under wraps?

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    Re: Obama threatened, called 'monkey' by ex-Carson council candidate

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Obama threatened, called 'monkey' by ex-Carson council candidate




    Where did we leave off with the Tea Party is / is not racist?

    My university was in Carson, CA. 50% black. I hope this racist, teabagger, scumbag gets what's coming to him.

    I read the secret service has already paid him a visit. Lock him up in county jail overnight, he'll be the belle of the ball.
    I don't quite get your post - was he involved with the Tea Party? Am I missing something? Enlighten me - I'm lost
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