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    Re: Video of grief and mass hysteria in North Korea

    It's very surreal. Yes, part of me wants to laugh, but then another part of me realizes how sad it is that these people genuinely are grieving his passing.
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    Re: Video of grief and mass hysteria in North Korea

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Oh well.

    It's not my idea of "sincere." But if that's accurate, it's accurate.

    I find the people in that video to be foolish.
    I get what you're trying to say -- the Kims aren't really gods and they fill the ears and eyes of the people with propaganda and the only opinion published is the state opinion, so it's hard to take it seriously.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Video of grief and mass hysteria in North Korea

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorgasm View Post
    It's very surreal. Yes, part of me wants to laugh, but then another part of me realizes how sad it is that these people genuinely are grieving his passing.
    Perhaps its just over-analyzing it...but there is a very telling eye gesture that many of the people in the crowd make...and they all look in the same direction. Why...its almost as if they are checking to see if they are being watched and expressing the appropriate amount of agony.

    I cant imagine what it must be like to live in North Korea. Im grateful for that.

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    Re: Video of grief and mass hysteria in North Korea

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Perhaps its just over-analyzing it...but there is a very telling eye gesture that many of the people in the crowd make...and they all look in the same direction. Why...its almost as if they are checking to see if they are being watched and expressing the appropriate amount of agony.

    I cant imagine what it must be like to live in North Korea. Im grateful for that.
    I wonder if they are punished for not attending the procession.
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    Re: Video of grief and mass hysteria in North Korea

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorgasm View Post
    I wonder if they are punished for not attending the procession.
    From what I have read (and perhaps it is all anti-Kim propoganda promoted by the US) thats probably a fair assumption.

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    Re: Video of grief and mass hysteria in North Korea

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    No one is getting paid to mourn, why would they be getting paid? North Koreans must cry over Kim's death, there is no other option. To not cry would raise suspicion against you and your family, to not show enough grief would place you in ill standing at your local work unit. On top of that there's always the genuine tears, when you are told a man is a God your entire life you start believing it. You cannot listen to that amount of propaganda and not have some part of your brain fearful once the God is gone, regardless of what you think to yourself. Those kinds who know no better are almost entirely hopeless, I'd believe most of them are genuine tears
    I've heard other reports that say within a group of factory workers for example, the ones who show the most emotion and crying do it to try to get a promotion.

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    (and perhaps it is all anti-Kim propoganda promoted by the US)
    I wouldn't worry about that too much, I'd imagine everything you've read on the subject is fairly accurate, in North Koreas case the US government doesn't need to make up anything, the NK government gives them all the ammo they'd ever need, if the escapees stories are anything to go by.
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    Re: Video of grief and mass hysteria in North Korea

    Quote Originally Posted by Juiposa View Post
    Either they are actually mourning, which would make them brainwashed freaks, or they are fake crying, which proves they are terrified of their government.
    It's both. We really can't understand the mass psychological effects of such an embedded cult of personality coupled with intense authoritarian brutality and isolation on a population for decades and decades. It's a combination of manufactured trauma, intense nationalism, brainwashing and ignorance through controlled state media, cultural isolation and homogeneity, intense social pressure to fall in line with the Party and the effects of brutal state repression through violence.

    Feel empathy towards the North Korean people; they're not freaks, they're victims.
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    Re: Video of grief and mass hysteria in North Korea

    Many of them are brainwashed from birth. They are told to revere their leader with a god-like complex. They are fed that North Korea is a paradise and that the rest of the world is in squalor compared to them. I'm sure some of them are truly in mourning over his death, and others are mourning for show and to not be attacked or targeted by the government. NK is a hellhole on earth, and these poor people probably don't know any better or know anything of the rest of the world.
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    Re: Video of grief and mass hysteria in North Korea

    These people are more cutoff from the outside world than the Russians were under the Soviets. It's not that hard to believe that these people are being genuine.
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    Re: Video of grief and mass hysteria in North Korea

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    These people are more cutoff from the outside world than the Russians were under the Soviets. It's not that hard to believe that these people are being genuine.
    The people that get the privilege of living in Pyongyang are generally those who have proven their loyalty. If you're not a fan of the regime, you don't live in Pyongyang (if you live at all). So since the procession is there, I'm sure that some of them are genuinely mourning.


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