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    Re: Court: Rule change for transportation union elections is valid

    Quote Originally Posted by Centinel View Post
    Why would the state force D and E to pay a fee to A, B, and C just to continue working at the jobs they already have? Other than that they happen to work for the same employer, how are D and E related in any way with A, B, and C?
    The state doesn't do that, the union contract does (some state laws don't allow that, hence my reference to states). The logic is that all workers get the benefits of the contract, so they should contribute in some way toward it. Not all union contracts do this though, even in states where it is legal.
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    Re: Court: Rule change for transportation union elections is valid

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    The state doesn't do that, the union contract does (some state laws don't allow that, hence my reference to states). The logic is that all workers get the benefits of the contract, so they should contribute in some way toward it. Not all union contracts do this though, even in states where it is legal.
    Yeahhh, that seems legal. D and E didnt want the contract, didnt sign, didnt want any part of it yet they are being forced to contribute to the resources being used to create it. And if they didnt want to take part in the union contract? What then? Because if its a union shop after the vote, Im pretty sure they have little choice.

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    Re: Court: Rule change for transportation union elections is valid

    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    Yeahhh, that seems legal. D and E didnt want the contract, didnt sign, didnt want any part of it yet they are being forced to contribute to the resources being used to create it. And if they didnt want to take part in the union contract? What then? Because if its a union shop after the vote, Im pretty sure they have little choice.
    Then they should have voted. Most politicians get elected by less than half of the people. If the people who didn't vote don't like Obama or Bush or Clinton or whoever, then that's their tough luck. They should have exercised their right to vote. Same with voting to have a union. If you didn't vote, then you didn't vote yes, and you didn't vote no. You just didn't vote. Tough luck if you don't like the results. Your apathy is upon YOU, not upon those who voted.
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    Re: Court: Rule change for transportation union elections is valid

    Who protected all the workers from John Corzine robbing the company blind and putting them all out of work...THATS WHY THERES UNIONS....and the private sector working class have been stripped of everything by pigs like corzine...and all theyve done is bend over and say thank thank you My Lord for allowing me to work for you for less and less...pfffffffffffft.....thats why after this primary I shall be a republican No more

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    Re: Court: Rule change for transportation union elections is valid

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    Who protected all the workers from John Corzine robbing the company blind and putting them all out of work...THATS WHY THERES UNIONS....and the private sector working class have been stripped of everything by pigs like corzine...and all theyve done is bend over and say thank thank you My Lord for allowing me to work for you for less and less...pfffffffffffft.....thats why after this primary I shall be a republican No more
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    Re: Court: Rule change for transportation union elections is valid

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    Re: Court: Rule change for transportation union elections is valid

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Who protected all the workers from John Corzine robbing the company blind and putting them all out of work...THATS WHY THERES UNIONS....and the private sector working class have been stripped of everything by pigs like corzine...and all theyve done is bend over and say thank thank you My Lord for allowing me to work for you for less and less...pfffffffffffft.....thats why after this primary I shall be a republican No more
    Unions wouldn't have stopped Corzine and to make such a leap of a ridiculous conclusion is absurd. You're comparing apples to comic books.

    As for being a republican no more, welcome. I left the republican party years ago. They are almost as out of touch with reality as the democrats have been for decades. They have left behind the very fabric of what the party is supposed to stand for. The Tea Party will split the republican party in the next 2 years, more so than it already has.

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    Re: Court: Rule change for transportation union elections is valid

    Who protected all the workers from John Corzine robbing the company blind and putting them all out of work
    This statement is categorically false. Unions would not have been able to prevent what Corzine did, there are laws against what he did.

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    Re: Court: Rule change for transportation union elections is valid

    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    Yeahhh, that seems legal. D and E didnt want the contract, didnt sign, didnt want any part of it yet they are being forced to contribute to the resources being used to create it.
    But they benefit from it.

    In some states, it's illegal.

    And if they didnt want to take part in the union contract? What then?
    They should find a new job. Those are the terms of employment, just like any other job that has no union. No job allows you to just decide what you want to get paid or the work conditions you'll work under (though union members do have input on it when they negotiate).
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