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    Re: Court: Rule change for transportation union elections is valid

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    You clearly are not interested in discussing the facts of this thread.

    If true, this looks illegal. It was stopped by a lawsuit. It has nothing to do with the legal election procedures we are discussing.
    It is true, and the Union had to pay big bucks for doing exactly the sort of behind the back stuff we are talking about.
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    Re: Court: Rule change for transportation union elections is valid

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Huh huh. Keep telling yourself that haymarket.
    No, you tell us why you think this Michigan incident was legal under NLRB election rules. Your own post says it wasn't.
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    Re: Court: Rule change for transportation union elections is valid

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    It is true, and the Union had to pay big bucks for doing exactly the sort of behind the back stuff we are talking about.
    I didn't say it wasn't true, I said it wasn't relevant because it was an illegal act. Nobody here said illegal acts don't happen. But illegal acts are certainly illegal. What more is there to say?
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    Re: Court: Rule change for transportation union elections is valid

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Huh huh. Keep telling yourself that haymarket.
    Actually I was informing you of the reality of it.
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    Re: Court: Rule change for transportation union elections is valid

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    No, you tell us why you think this Michigan incident was legal under NLRB election rules. Your own post says it wasn't.
    It was done without the consent of those covered by it. 6k out of 70k "votes" cast resulted in millions of dollars being stolen. Oh sure, after the fact, and much money and heart ache it got reversed. The NLRB didn't run this vote, and they aren't REQUIRED to, as you claimed, they are an avenue, not the end game.
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    Re: Court: Rule change for transportation union elections is valid

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    It was done without the consent of those covered by it. 6k out of 70k "votes" cast resulted in millions of dollars being stolen. Oh sure, after the fact, and much money and heart ache it got reversed. The NLRB didn't run this vote, and they aren't REQUIRED to, as you claimed, they are an avenue, not the end game.
    We just had a recent election in my community. The turnout was under 10%. Your numbers 'prove' nothing.
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    Re: Court: Rule change for transportation union elections is valid

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    It was done without the consent of those covered by it. 6k out of 70k "votes" cast resulted in millions of dollars being stolen. Oh sure, after the fact, and much money and heart ache it got reversed.
    So now you're complaining that an illegal act was only reversed after it happened? Because most lawsuits to correct illegal acts should be filed before the illegal acts happen? Is that it?

    The NLRB didn't run this vote, and they aren't REQUIRED to, as you claimed, they are an avenue, not the end game.
    I never said that. This thread is about NLRB elections though. You brought up a different issue.
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    Re: Court: Rule change for transportation union elections is valid

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    We just had a recent election in my community. The turnout was under 10%. Your numbers 'prove' nothing.
    Someone is being OBTUSE! The Government, in collusion with Unions, STOLE millions from unsuspecting people, and only after it was exposed and the courts get involved, did things get set right. The point was, that Unions can get formed without anyone even knowing it happened. In this case, it was reversed BECAUSE it was so blatantly done, but it took court cases, money and time to reverse the damage. Misterman, and yourself claim Union forming HAS to be done under the ausipices of the NRLB, I have shown just one example, there are more, of Union thuggery in action.



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    Re: Court: Rule change for transportation union elections is valid

    Quote Originally Posted by Centinel View Post
    Absolutely ridiculous that worker A, B, and C can form a union that automatically includes workers D and E, despite the fact that D and E are not interested. Who cam up with that ridiculous scheme, and why doesn't the government protect workers D and E from this?
    If a union only represents a portion of the workers, that union has no power. I'm sure you know this which is why you ask leading questions like this.

    You haven't considered, however, management's ability to lock out the union. Is it fair for them to lock out workers D and E who aren't in the union? But if they don't, how much do workers D and E accomplish on their own considering that they are only 40% of the workforce? To take a high profile example, the NBA. So let's say the Lakers go to lock out the union, and workers D and E are Luke Walton and Metta World Peace (fka Ron Artest). Not much of a team is it?


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