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    Re: Recall Walker Signatures Pass 500,000 Mark

    I'm sure that its not hard to come up with the needed signatures to get a recall done. All that they have to do is get people that voted against Walker to sign. But in the end it is the election itself that is going to matter. The only way that Walker will loose is if the other side promotes him in a bad light to sufficiently change the numbers game. I'm sure that words like "union busting" and such might just do it. Never mind the actual fact that no union busting ever went on. The only thing that Walker stopped with his bill is the ability of public workers to negotiate with the very people they vote for how much money they get. The ability to negotiate safety measure and such was never taken away. The ability to gather and voice complaints with a unified voice is still intact.
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    Re: Recall Walker Signatures Pass 500,000 Mark

    Quote Originally Posted by mattillac View Post
    This way the kochroaches can take action against their employees who signed the petition, heck while you are at it maybe the votes for all offices should be made public. That way no one can hide what they have done in the voting booth or otherwise.
    Actually, Mr. Vicchio got caught up in a lie that he must have seen on FOX News. The signatures ARE made public, after being turned in, so that those signatures can be challenged.
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    Re: Recall Walker Signatures Pass 500,000 Mark

    good riddance.

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    Re: Recall Walker Signatures Pass 500,000 Mark

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Actually, Mr. Vicchio got caught up in a lie that he must have seen on FOX News. The signatures ARE made public, after being turned in, so that those signatures can be challenged.
    What lie? I said they shoudl be, but will they hit the public in time to make a difference? That's what Danarhea isn't telling you.
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    Re: Recall Walker Signatures Pass 500,000 Mark

    the real test is in securing enough votes to oust him.. not in seeing how many signatures you can get to call for a recall election.

    collecting signatures for a recall election is an exercise where only his opponents have a say... the actual election is where his supporters will have the chance to chime in as well.


    i'm not a Wisconsin resident, so I can't even count the way I don't care about the issue of this governors potential recall.

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    Re: Recall Walker Signatures Pass 500,000 Mark

    3.4 million registered voters in Wisconson.

    2.2 million voted in 2010.

    1.1 million didn't vote for Walker. Congratulations on finding 500k people. Shouldn't have been too hard of a task to begin with.

    It should be interesting to see if the people that signed the petition are actual registered voters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    It's foolish and gravely overreacting. It's akin to people wanting to impeach Obama over the healthcare bill. Recalls almost never happen, and I think it's a shame that people would go through such lengths over their union benefits at the expense of the taxpayers.
    no, it's democracy in action.

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    Re: Recall Walker Signatures Pass 500,000 Mark

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I can't believe this children are serious. Really? A recall?
    A recall of an elected officials who are NOT members of Congress is permissable by the people themselves who voted the elected official to office. The voters themselves would have to determine if the elected official still warrants the job he was elected to hold and then act accordingly.

    I recently came across this congressional legal study by Jack Maskell, Legislative Attorney, entitled "Recall of Legislators and the Removal of Members of Congress from Office" and thought it very interesting. Although the focus of the piece deals with the circumstances and legalities of removing members of Congress from office, it also discusses the power of the people at the State level to recall members of state legislatures or even a Governor. (See "Administrative and Judicial Decisions on State Recall Laws," beginning on page 9 for details)
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    Re: Recall Walker Signatures Pass 500,000 Mark

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    What lie? I said they shoudl be, but will they hit the public in time to make a difference? That's what Danarhea isn't telling you.
    More partisan Rush Limbaugh BS. The whole thing about the process can easily be revealed right here. The link is to a statement by the Government Accountability Board, authorizing the prosecutor to go after a group that is encouraging people to sign "Adolph Hitler" on petitions.

    The gem in this statement is the following:

    Much has been made in the media about the Government Accountability Board’s role in recall petition review, and whether the Board should undertake a much more costly investigation of each signature. The Board will do its part as required by state law, but the procedures laid out in the statutes give recall committees and the incumbent officeholder’s committee important roles to play – eliminating fraudulent and duplicate signatures before filing, and challenging signatures after filing. The Board will then rule on those challenges. Political committees may raise unlimited funds to circulate and challenge recall petitions. By placing the burden on officeholders to identify questionable signatures, the Legislature has determined that the cost should be shared by the politicians rather than shouldered only by the taxpayers.
    And who controls Wisconsin's Legislature? The Republicans, that's who. That's right, a REPUBLICAN Legislature could have changed that at any time since they gained power in 2010, but they didn't, until Total Recall began this year. Then the whining and lies about how the process works began. 'Ya know, the Governor didn't have a problem with the recall process when HE used it to oust the Milwaukee County Executive, and get himself elected to that position. Gee, why does he have such a problem with it now? Because the tables are turned, and he is on the other end this time. What a freakin' hypocrite. He needs to change his diaper, and stop his damn whining. He isn't royalty. He is subject to the same Wisconsin laws that all other Wisconsinites are subject to. That's how Democracy works, and Democracy is what is going to remove him, as it removes all others who would become dictators, against the will of those who elected them.
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    Re: Recall Walker Signatures Pass 500,000 Mark

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Union busting. His legislation that was shoved through had nothing to do with the budget. The unions had agreed to all of the budget stipulations, including paying more for their health coverage and contributing more to their pensions, they just wanted to keep their right to collective baraganing.
    Plus apparently the people of Wisconsin dont think they are overreacting.
    Completely false. It was a budget repair bill. The bill was projected to save the state $30 million that year and $300 million over the next two years. This was in the face of a $3.6 billion deficit in the 2012-2013 budget cycle. Private emails released showed that Walker was negotiating with Democrats by allowing them to retain some collective bargaining rights. To say the bill would do away with unions is completely false as well.

    Unions would be unable to seek pay increases, for government workers, above the rate of inflation, unless approved by a voter referendum.[40][42] Under the bill, unions would have to win yearly votes to continue representing government workers, and could no longer have dues automatically deducted from government workers' paychecks.[40][43] Law enforcement personnel and firefighters would be exempt from the bargaining changes
    The unions had not agreed to all the budget stipulations, certain fiscal measures were stricken in order for the bill to pass in the senate by simple majority. If anything this recall effort shows that the corrupting influence of big labor is equal, if not greater, than big business. It also shows the complete lack of political will to reform mandatory entitlement spending on the state level that is bankrupting states across the country. Without the necessary reform of legally binding entitlement liabilities some states won't see the end of the next decade. What will happen? Cuts will have to be made in critical areas of discretionary spending; such as Walker's $900 million projected cut to state aid to education next year in order to balance the budget (which is required by law).

    Sources:
    Scott Walker (politician) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/12/us...0walker&st=cse
    Wis. Gov. Scott Walker proposes union compromise in e-mails - BostonHerald.com
    Wisconsin boosts 3-year rev projection by $636 mln | Reuters

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