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    How Long Should We Help the Unemployed?

    http://money.cnn.com/2011/12/13/news/economy/unemployment_benefits_extension/index.htm

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    found this to be a very interesting article and before I might say extend but I tend to agree--several unemployed don't need these extensions they need to learn to adapt and build up. This is a nonstarter to get unemployment down by continuously extending the unemployment for those out of work for over a year. I mean come on a year? Jesus Christ.
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    Re: How Long Should We Help the Unemployed?

    Wouldn't it be better for everyone if we just had a system in effect to place people into jobs? There would be no need to subsidize unemployment, since there would be far less of it.
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    Re: How Long Should We Help the Unemployed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Wouldn't it be better for everyone if we just had a system in effect to place people into jobs? There would be no need to subsidize unemployment, since there would be far less of it.
    Are you sure that everyone will do their "new" job with vigor and zeal or maybe just believe - I am worth more than this, the government needs to pay me better, give me better benefits and make sure I earn more than my neighbor?
    The question is more important than the answer!

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    Re: How Long Should We Help the Unemployed?

    In most states, the deal is 26 weeks. Past that, it is no longer unemployment, it is welfare.

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    Re: How Long Should We Help the Unemployed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Wouldn't it be better for everyone if we just had a system in effect to place people into jobs? There would be no need to subsidize unemployment, since there would be far less of it.
    There is it;s called Jobcore and the government runs it and it places people in a job after teaching someone a trade.
    "We’re going to close the unproductive tax loopholes that allow some of the truly wealthy to avoid paying their fair share. In theory, some of those loopholes were understandable, but in practice they sometimes made it possible for millionaires to pay nothing, while a bus driver was paying ten percent of his salary, and that’s crazy." -Reagan

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    Re: How Long Should We Help the Unemployed?

    I think we should have different rules for "regular" times than we do at the moment. We are in a global financial crisis.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: How Long Should We Help the Unemployed?

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    http://money.cnn.com/2011/12/13/news/economy/unemployment_benefits_extension/index.htm

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    found this to be a very interesting article and before I might say extend but I tend to agree--several unemployed don't need these extensions they need to learn to adapt and build up. This is a nonstarter to get unemployment down by continuously extending the unemployment for those out of work for over a year. I mean come on a year? Jesus Christ.
    And what do we do when those unemployed people are suffering and struggling with no money or job to be found? Just leave them to hopefully grab a rope to keep from sinking?

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    Re: How Long Should We Help the Unemployed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Wouldn't it be better for everyone if we just had a system in effect to place people into jobs? There would be no need to subsidize unemployment, since there would be far less of it.
    There are programs like that. My brother worked for one of the "placers" and it's corrupt as hell which is why he decided to stop working there.

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    Re: How Long Should We Help the Unemployed?

    I'm all for a system similar to what Wisconsin has been using for the past few years.....

    Anyone coming into the system would be classified based on their education and job skills. Over a period of time (six months to a year) they would be offered educational and job training programs to bring them to a minimum of a GED level education and some job skill (if necessary). At the point they are deemed both educated and skilled they should be given 26 weeks to find employment or they get cut off completely. During those 26 weeks they should be required to check in weekly to ensure they are actively seeking employment. Those check-ins would also allow the administration to provide them with information on potential job opportunities with their skills.... IN OTHER AREAS OF THE COUNTRY.

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    Re: How Long Should We Help the Unemployed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    And what do we do when those unemployed people are suffering and struggling with no money or job to be found? Just leave them to hopefully grab a rope to keep from sinking?
    The unemployment is high but it isn't high enough that someone should be out of work for 70+ months.
    "We’re going to close the unproductive tax loopholes that allow some of the truly wealthy to avoid paying their fair share. In theory, some of those loopholes were understandable, but in practice they sometimes made it possible for millionaires to pay nothing, while a bus driver was paying ten percent of his salary, and that’s crazy." -Reagan

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