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    Atheist messages displace CA park nativity scenes

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    SANTA MONICA, Calif. (AP) Jesus, Mary, Joseph and the three wise men are being crowded out by atheists.

    Most of the Christmas nativity scenes that churches had placed in a Santa Monica coastal park for decades have been displaced by non-religious displays and the churches are crying conspiracy.

    The Santa Monica Nativity Scenes Committee, a coalition of 13 churches, and the Santa Monica Police Officers Association, has traditionally claimed 14 of the 21 display spaces, which are vandal-proof, cage-like areas surrounded by chain-link fencing.

    The coalition displays have featured life-size depictions of the story of the birth of Jesus Christ.

    But atheists got all but three of the spaces this year because of a new lottery system. The coalition got two spots to display Jesus, Mary and the wise men.
    The third went to Isaac Levitansky of Chabad Channukah Menorah.

    Adding to the loss, the atheists have used only three of the display areas to promote their message.
    Vix now helps other atheists acquire the park spaces, including American Atheists Inc. and the Freedom From Religion Foundation.

    Secularists feel a need to be more vocal and express their civil rights, he said.

    "For 60 years, it's almost exclusively been the point of view of Christians putting up nativity scenes for a whole city block," Vix said.

    Jameson pushed the city to give local preference in awarding the spaces. Vix doesn't live in Santa Monica.

    City Attorney Marsha Moutrie wrote, however, that the Christmas displays cross the boundary into First Amendment free speech rights, which know no geographical boundaries.

    "Everyone has equal rights to use the streets and parks for expressive activities, irrespective of residency," Moutrie wrote.
    Source: Atheist messages displace CA park nativity scenes - Yahoo! News

    The article goes in detail on how it seems atheists are trying to crowd out the Christian nativity scenes in that area. In order to be able to even put up a sign, you need to win in that lottery, but now it seems atheists got all but three of the spaces. Odd, huh?

    What do you guys think of this?
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    Re: Atheist messages displace CA park nativity scenes

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
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    The article goes in detail on how it seems atheists are trying to crowd out the Christian nativity scenes in that area. In order to be able to even put up a sign, you need to win in that lottery, but now it seems atheists got all but three of the spaces. Odd, huh?

    What do you guys think of this?
    How many spaces are there in total? Perhaps there are simply more atheists groups that lobby for a spot compared to religious groups?
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    Nothing like the war on Christmas, fun time of year.
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    Re: Atheist messages displace CA park nativity scenes

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
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    The article goes in detail on how it seems atheists are trying to crowd out the Christian nativity scenes in that area. In order to be able to even put up a sign, you need to win in that lottery, but now it seems atheists got all but three of the spaces. Odd, huh?

    What do you guys think of this?
    It reminds me of how only elderly people win the lottery.
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    For not claiming to have any faith these dicks sure do want to spread their beliefs around and oppress the beliefs of others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    For not claiming to have any faith these dicks sure do want to spread their beliefs around and oppress the beliefs of others.
    How are they oppressing the beliefs of others? Did they rig the lottery?
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    Re: Atheist messages displace CA park nativity scenes

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    How many spaces are there in total? Perhaps there are simply more atheists groups that lobby for a spot compared to religious groups?
    If I'm correct, there's 21 displays up for lottery. Traditionally churches have claimed 14 of the 21, but now atheists have claimed 18 out of 21. Something may be afoot. I can't say with certainty.

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    Re: Atheist messages displace CA park nativity scenes

    Starting out, it seems that what these atheists are doing is crap. If you wanted all those spaces and just happenned to win them then they should at least use them all up.

    With that said, who doesn't see at least a million nativity scenes every christmas? I see ten every day while leaving my house before I get out of my neighborhood. Do we honestly need any more?
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    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    For not claiming to have any faith these dicks sure do want to spread their beliefs around and oppress the beliefs of others.
    While I understand the irony, they are no more dicks than those who want to put their message in and are complaining now that they have competition.
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    Re: Atheist messages displace CA park nativity scenes

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    For not claiming to have any faith these dicks sure do want to spread their beliefs around and oppress the beliefs of others.
    They certainly have as much right to display their beliefs as anyone else but it would seem the idea here is to try and stop any ideas other than their own. Not that others haven't done the same thing.

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