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    Re: Atheist messages displace CA park nativity scenes

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    Re: Atheist messages displace CA park nativity scenes

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I understand what you are saying. I would never have done what they did and think it is a bad idea. However, I stand by my comment that they are not being any more dicks than those who are complaining that they have competition for public space. It's another one of those cases where the religious groups and the atheists should be glad I didn't run the whole thing since I would just shut the ****ing things down since no one can manage to play nice.
    And again, I fully disagree with you. For one, you're assuming they have an issue that the yhave "Competition" for the public space, which is a baseless assumption. Right off the bat its clear there's NUMEROUS reasons they could be complaining...

    - They could be complaining not because of competition in general but specifically due to non-locals coming in and competing for spots that they had no intent to actually use. The issues between "outsiders" and "locals" are hardly a new thing, nor a religion based thing.

    - They could be complaining that people entered into the lottery to get spots with the explicite purpose to PREVENT people from putting ANYTHING up rather than to put up their own things as evidenced by 15 of the 18 spots being simply left vacant

    - They could be upset that those bidding for the spot during the Holiday seasons choose to put nothing up at all that relates to the holidays. I don't see them complaining about the individual putting up stuff for Chaunaka if I read the story right as to who got the last spot.

    - They could be upset that those ibdding for the spots then decided to use those spots to specifically attack and belittle a particular group of people

    All four of those reasons are just as likely as your assertion that they're upset there's "competition" and yet you decide to deem with absolute assuredly that they are complaining because they now have competition and are thus "dicks".

    IF they are complaining simply becuase its Athiests and would be doing so regardless of what they put in their displays, then I'd likely go along with dicks. Actually, I don't really think that's "dickish"...I think it'd be more petulent and whiny. Complaining isn't so much a dick move as a pussy move.

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    Re: Atheist messages displace CA park nativity scenes

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    And again, I fully disagree with you. For one, you're assuming they have an issue that the yhave "Competition" for the public space, which is a baseless assumption. Right off the bat its clear there's NUMEROUS reasons they could be complaining...

    - They could be complaining not because of competition in general but specifically due to non-locals coming in and competing for spots that they had no intent to actually use. The issues between "outsiders" and "locals" are hardly a new thing, nor a religion based thing.

    - They could be complaining that people entered into the lottery to get spots with the explicite purpose to PREVENT people from putting ANYTHING up rather than to put up their own things as evidenced by 15 of the 18 spots being simply left vacant

    - They could be upset that those bidding for the spot during the Holiday seasons choose to put nothing up at all that relates to the holidays. I don't see them complaining about the individual putting up stuff for Chaunaka if I read the story right as to who got the last spot.

    - They could be upset that those ibdding for the spots then decided to use those spots to specifically attack and belittle a particular group of people

    All four of those reasons are just as likely as your assertion that they're upset there's "competition" and yet you decide to deem with absolute assuredly that they are complaining because they now have competition and are thus "dicks".
    From the article:

    "Our belief is that these new applicants have been working together to displace and push out the nativity scenes from the park, rather than erecting a full display of their own," said Hunter Jameson, a spokesman for a coalition of the city's churches.
    They got upset that there is competition for public space. Boo ****ing hoo.
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    Re: Atheist messages displace CA park nativity scenes

    Hmm, one would think in the name of tolerance, they would give some of them away.... I guess it's not about being "equal" after all. Ironic.
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    Re: Atheist messages displace CA park nativity scenes

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Hmm, one would think in the name of tolerance, they would give some of them away.... I guess it's not about being "equal" after all. Ironic.

    Tolerance is not the same thing as charity, and why was not one suggesting the christian group should give some away.
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    Re: Atheist messages displace CA park nativity scenes

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Tolerance is not the same thing as charity, and why was not one suggesting the christian group should give some away.

    It was a chance to show themselves different than thier stated enemy.
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    Re: Atheist messages displace CA park nativity scenes

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    It was a chance to show themselves different than thier stated enemy.
    They have not stated any one was their enemy.

    Edit: oh, and remember: I before E except after C or in the word "their".
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    Re: Atheist messages displace CA park nativity scenes

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    From the article:

    They got upset that there is competition for public space. Boo ****ing hoo.
    From the article:

    "Our belief is that these new applicants have been working together to displace and push out the nativity scenes from the park, rather than erecting a full display of their own," said Hunter Jameson, a spokesman for a coalition of the city's churches.
    The line you point to seems to suggest they're upset that people are applying SPECIFICALLY to displace nativity scenes rather than to erect their own display. IE, that the people aren't "competing" to put up their own stuff...but rather their entering it simply to STOP someone else from putting something up and then just leaving their own blank. Seems like someone suggested that could be a reason they were complaining:

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin
    - They could be complaining that people entered into the lottery to get spots with the explicite purpose to PREVENT people from putting ANYTHING up rather than to put up their own things as evidenced by 15 of the 18 spots being simply left vacant
    Nope, based on the comment you point out I 100% disagree that the people who put up the nativity scenes are the same level of dickishness as the athiest groups in this case. The quote you posted clearly shows their issue isn't that someone is competing to put up stuff, its that people are competing specifically with the intent and purpose to stop them from putting something up with no intent or desire to put anything up of their own. And you know what, I agree with them. I'd be complaining to, because that's a ****ing dick move. If you want to get the spot and put up a display and participate in what the purpose of those spots are there for...go right ahead! More power to you and if it makes me have less space, no problem. But don't participate for no other reason than to try and make me get less with having no intent what so ever to use it yourself, essentially just squating on it to thumb your nose at me.

    That's dickish. Being annoyed by that is not dickish.

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    Re: Atheist messages displace CA park nativity scenes

    I think it's pretty obvious that if these people don't use all of the spaces then they are being dicks. I think they should use up the ones they want and give the rest to whatever churches want to use them. It's not their fault that they just so happened to get all the spaces they applied for but if they weren't planning on using them then they should give them back.
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    Re: Atheist messages displace CA park nativity scenes

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    I think it's pretty obvious that if these people don't use all of the spaces then they are being dicks. I think they should use up the ones they want and give the rest to whatever churches want to use them. It's not their fault that they just so happened to get all the spaces they applied for but if they weren't planning on using them then they should give them back.
    Even if they don't give it to the churchs, give it back to have another lottery. Or hell give it to local organizations of their choice to put up decorations. Just don't sit there squatting in them doing nothing.

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