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    Re: Atheist messages displace CA park nativity scenes

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Indeed, just like the average Republican/Democrat that's very vocal can be JUST as annoying a vocal Ron Paulite. The difference is, because the Republican/Democrats are the "norm" and the "majority" most people have enough experience with ones they know to be Republicans/Democrats that they don't judge those Republicans/Democrats based on their most vocal crazies. Paul fans, unfortunately, are not the norm...there aren't a ton of them...most people don't know a bunch of people who are Paul fans that aren't also the very vocal types, and thus the vocal types become the only real measuring stick those people have.

    Similarly...most people know Christians and religious folks. They are far and away the norm and the majority. People are familiar with dozens upon dozens or even hundreds of "average, benign, every day religious folks. Most don't have a ton of familiarity with athiests, and their only real reference to them tends to come from the very vocal of the bunch.

    Its not saying one groups vocal minority is worse than the other, but comparing how the vocal minority in both groups (paulites and athiests) tend to be viewed, and do their side no favors, by the masses due to the realities of the situations around them.



    Its a weird sort of thing. I think people want to be special, while at the same time I think they want to be normal and to "belong" as well. I think religion actually fits more into the latter scope of things. To be frank, I think athiesm by and large far more into the first grouping rather than the second.



    Some perhaps. I think by and large people are generally less upset about blatant "lack of belief" an individual may have and more upset with blatant minimizing/belittling of faith other people have. I don't see a lot of people getting upset because someone goes "I Don't believe in god!", I see a fair bit more get upset for someone going "People are foolish to believe in a god!"



    Absolutely. Never suggested otherwise.
    No, it's atheism that awakens a person to how they are NOT special. Hence the empty boxes for display.
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    Re: Atheist messages displace CA park nativity scenes

    Quote Originally Posted by evanescence View Post
    No, it's atheism that awakens a person to how they are NOT special. Hence the empty boxes for display.
    And thus we go back to you making an assertion that "nothing" is somehow an athiest message, and therefore I guess we're being "assulted" (as some people, not necessarily you, like to suggest is the word to use in instances of religious displays) by athiest messages every day when we move around in public and see space filled with "nothing".

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    Re: Atheist messages displace CA park nativity scenes

    Quote Originally Posted by evanescence View Post
    No, it's atheism that awakens a person to how they are NOT special. Hence the empty boxes for display.
    Now how crazy is this? Actually the athiests I know feel pretty darn special because they don't have to have a god to prop themselves up with. They know they are awesome, and they know they did it on their own.

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    Re: Atheist messages displace CA park nativity scenes

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    And thus we go back to you making an assertion that "nothing" is somehow an athiest message, and therefore I guess we're being "assulted" (as some people, not necessarily you, like to suggest is the word to use in instances of religious displays) by athiest messages every day when we move around in public and see space filled with "nothing".
    Hyperbole. Those displays with "nothing" represent the fact that atheists believe in nothing.
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    Re: Atheist messages displace CA park nativity scenes

    Quote Originally Posted by evanescence View Post
    No, it's atheism that awakens a person to how they are NOT special. Hence the empty boxes for display.
    So, the choice is between believing that humans are the sons and daughters of god, and therefore all brothers and sisters, or that human beings are basically no different from ants or cockroaches or anything else that sprang spontaneously from the primal ooze.

    It's a wonder atheism is as popular as it is.
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    Re: Atheist messages displace CA park nativity scenes

    Quote Originally Posted by evanescence View Post
    Hyperbole. Those displays with "nothing" represent the fact that atheists believe in nothing.
    So athiests are nihlists?


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    Re: Atheist messages displace CA park nativity scenes

    Quote Originally Posted by evanescence View Post
    Hyperbole. Those displays with "nothing" represent the fact that atheists believe in nothing.
    It could. In the past I thought that a multi-religious display that the atheists lot should just be empty. But in reality, that is likely not the real reason here. They're more likely just keeping them away from the theists.
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    Re: Atheist messages displace CA park nativity scenes

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    So, the choice is between believing that humans are the sons and daughters of god, and therefore all brothers and sisters, or that human beings are basically no different from ants or cockroaches or anything else that sprang spontaneously from the primal ooze.

    It's a wonder atheism is as popular as it is.
    Theists make up 98% of the human race. Ironically, most of those people will be burning in hell after they die.
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    Re: Atheist messages displace CA park nativity scenes

    Quote Originally Posted by evanescence View Post
    No, it's atheism that awakens a person to how they are NOT special. Hence the empty boxes for display.
    Atheism is starting to sound like Buddhism.
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    Re: Atheist messages displace CA park nativity scenes

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    Atheism is a lack of belief in a God or Gods. It has nothing to do with science, which is neither a belief nor a lack of one.
    Science is certainly about beliefs, philosophically speaking. Atheism is also about one's belief about knowledge and evidence and about one's metaphysics. No one is simply an atheist, they are one because of their view of the evidence and knowledge and because of their view of reality, however vague or ill-thought through these may be.
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