Page 36 of 47 FirstFirst ... 26343536373846 ... LastLast
Results 351 to 360 of 470

Thread: Atheist messages displace CA park nativity scenes

  1. #351
    Global Moderator
    The Truth is out there.
    Kal'Stang's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Bonners Ferry ID USA
    Last Seen
    @
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    32,863
    Blog Entries
    1

    Re: Atheist messages displace CA park nativity scenes

    Quote Originally Posted by evanescence View Post
    Your questions have been answered. You just didn't like it.
    No, my question was not answered. I'll state it one more time.

    Would you stay silent if someone came up to you and started being dickish? Or would you voice your complaint about it?

    A simple yes or no will suffice.
    I have an answer for everything...you may not like the answer or it may not satisfy your curiosity..but it will still be an answer. ~ Kal'Stang

    My mind and my heart are saying I'm in my twenties. My body is pointing at my mind and heart and laughing its ass off. ~ Kal'Stang

  2. #352
    Dungeon Master
    Hooter Babe

    DiAnna's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Location
    Northern California
    Last Seen
    @
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    32,648
    Blog Entries
    1

    Re: Atheist messages displace CA park nativity scenes

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    The point I am making is that it isn't right either way, it's a dick move. Public or private property it's using a loophole to slap someone in the face.
    You think it's a dick move. Others would disagree, and might even think "it's about time." Christians slap atheists in the face all the time. A perfect example is that on a daily basis you can read insults about non-believers on thousands of church boards throughout the nation. That's a pretty dick move, too. However, non-believers aren't lining up to whine about it because most of them support freedom of religion, and the freedom of religious folks to believe what they wish.


    So? There is a freedom of not from religion.
    Huh?

    Okay? So basically it's okay to mock people because you want in on their holiday. Frankly Chanuk and Christmas are celebrated right now, the Pagans have something as well. It's not just "super happy fun time away from work" for all of us.
    Again I must remind you, Christmas is not their holiday. *sigh*

    I never said the athiests don't have a claim to public space, rather that what they did here is rude, condescending, and frankly ill timed.
    Ill-timed? It's a holiday display. What they did was express their lack of belief in what they consider to be mythology. They probably think it's rude and condescending to be told throughout the year that they are godless heathens who will burn in hell. At least atheists can't be hauled before congressional committees and blacklisted anymore. But they can, however, be fired, shunned, and insulted on a daily basis. Forgive my lack of empathy as you castigate "sub-human garbage" who don't believe the same things you believe, and have the audacity to legally say so.


    But you are condoning it.
    No, I'm explaining it and condoning their legal right to express their lack of belief just as I condon the religious community's right to do the same.

    And I say they are sub-human garbage and hope they someday learn some manners.
    My response would be that those who call others "sub-human garbage" need a few lessons in manners themselves.

  3. #353
    Global Moderator
    The Truth is out there.
    Kal'Stang's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Bonners Ferry ID USA
    Last Seen
    @
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    32,863
    Blog Entries
    1

    Re: Atheist messages displace CA park nativity scenes

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    I don't want to speak for Redress, but it's possible he doesn't acknowledge that they have a valid complaint because he doesn't believe that they DO have a valid complaint. I don't think their complaint is valid. They lost the lottery, someone they don't like won, and they're angry about it. Tell them to lobby the city for a rules change. They can start with the rule that each winner can claim up to 9 display cages. Complaining about that is valid. Complaining about what others did or did not do with the displays they rightfully claimed is not valid.
    Voicing a complaint is a way in which to get rules changed. Correct?

    And how is it not valid? Do you agree that what the athiests did was dickish? Because if you don't then I see why would you think that they don't have a valid complaint. If you think that they were dickish then I don't see how you can think that it is not a valid complaint.
    I have an answer for everything...you may not like the answer or it may not satisfy your curiosity..but it will still be an answer. ~ Kal'Stang

    My mind and my heart are saying I'm in my twenties. My body is pointing at my mind and heart and laughing its ass off. ~ Kal'Stang

  4. #354
    ˇSelah!
    Alyssa's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    southern and midwestern United States where Protestant fundamentalism is dominant
    Last Seen
    05-07-14 @ 09:55 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    8,648
    Blog Entries
    2

    Re: Atheist messages displace CA park nativity scenes

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    It's the War on the War on Christmas!
    Satan made them do it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    I don't quite agree with this. Public space should be used for anyone irregardless of a holiday.

    As for the rest, two wrongs do not make a right. Pretty much everyone in this thread agrees that what the athiests did was dickish, but instead of ignoring it or saying that they "have a right to do it" (which no one disputes) we should condemn it. We have that right also.
    So long as your right to complain doesn't interfere with someone else's liberty.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    No, my question was not answered. I'll state it one more time.

    Would you stay silent if someone came up to you and started being dickish? Or would you voice your complaint about it?

    A simple yes or no will suffice.
    They can bitch and moan all they want, so long as it's not their intentions to limit someone's free speech.
    “In politics, stupidity is not a handicap.” -Napoleon

  5. #355
    Sage
    Lord Tammerlain's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Last Seen
    Today @ 01:00 AM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    10,432

    Re: Atheist messages displace CA park nativity scenes

    It boils down to

    Political correctness

    Christian groups are upset that the athiest groups was political incorrect.

    ie a lack of politeness.
    Happy Hanukkah Cheerfull Kwanzaa
    Happy Christmas Merry New Year Festivus for the rest of us

  6. #356
    Dorset Patriot
    Wessexman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    Sydney, Australia(but my heart is back in Dorset.)
    Last Seen
    10-17-17 @ 04:17 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    8,468

    Re: Atheist messages displace CA park nativity scenes

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    It boils down to

    Political correctness

    Christian groups are upset that the athiest groups was political incorrect.

    ie a lack of politeness.
    Please don't sully politeness and good manners with political correctness. If someone pushes in front of you in a queue that is impolite and has nothing to do with political correctness. Politeness and manners are social necessities.
    "It is written in the eternal constitution that men of intemperate minds cannot be free. Their passions forge their fetters." - Edmund Burke

  7. #357
    Global Moderator
    The Truth is out there.
    Kal'Stang's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Bonners Ferry ID USA
    Last Seen
    @
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    32,863
    Blog Entries
    1

    Re: Atheist messages displace CA park nativity scenes

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    Please don't sully politeness and good manners with political correctness. If someone pushes in front of you in a queue that is impolite and has nothing to do with political correctness. Politeness and manners are social necessities.
    Thanks, I was trying to figure out a decent response to that. You've done better than I could.
    I have an answer for everything...you may not like the answer or it may not satisfy your curiosity..but it will still be an answer. ~ Kal'Stang

    My mind and my heart are saying I'm in my twenties. My body is pointing at my mind and heart and laughing its ass off. ~ Kal'Stang

  8. #358
    Wrinkly member
    Manc Skipper's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    Southern England
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 11:18 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Slightly Liberal
    Posts
    23,227

    Re: Atheist messages displace CA park nativity scenes

    What does "irregardless" mean? "regardless" would be without regard, so would "irregardless" mean not without regard, or with regard?
    Don't work out, work in.

    Never eat anything that's served in a bucket.

  9. #359
    Sage
    Hatuey's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Last Seen
    Today @ 12:48 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    42,056

    Re: Atheist messages displace CA park nativity scenes

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Voicing a complaint is a way in which to get rules changed. Correct?
    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    IE you care only for your rights and no one elses. Duly noted.
    Unless that "law" concerns a right invented by Kal'Stang. Then it's an infringement of rights.
    I refuse to accept the view that mankind is so tragically bound to the starless midnight of racism and war that the bright daybreak of peace and brotherhood can never become a reality. - MLK

  10. #360
    Sage
    Lord Tammerlain's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Last Seen
    Today @ 01:00 AM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    10,432

    Re: Atheist messages displace CA park nativity scenes

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    Please don't sully politeness and good manners with political correctness. If someone pushes in front of you in a queue that is impolite and has nothing to do with political correctness. Politeness and manners are social necessities.
    And that is what political correctness boils down to

    Being polite. Refering to someone by the terminology that they perfer rather then saying something that is insultive to them. It is allowing people to practice their beliefs generally freely provided that it does not negatively and directly affects someone elses believes

    The athiests in this case were politically incorrect, they decided to be dickish. Just like openly calling someone of a particular ethnic group a term that many find offensive, just because you dont want to be politically correct.
    Happy Hanukkah Cheerfull Kwanzaa
    Happy Christmas Merry New Year Festivus for the rest of us

Page 36 of 47 FirstFirst ... 26343536373846 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •