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    Re: Atheist messages displace CA park nativity scenes

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    It's no different than what would have happened if 3 slots were given to churches and the atheist groups got 2 slots instead.

    Don't really see where the oppression is here.

    EDIT: Oops. Misread that.

    Atheists got all but a few.

    Well, even so, it's not their fault if they went by the system. Even so, no oppression here.
    It probably wouldn't have been such a big deal if they had used up all of those slots instead of deliberately using only 3 and leaving the rest empty on purpose.
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    Re: Atheist messages displace CA park nativity scenes

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Sam, we may actually agree on something here.
    That may be the case.

    But I don't see why only religious organizations should get to speak out during the holiday seasons. I see nothing wrong with atheist groups doing this.
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    Re: Atheist messages displace CA park nativity scenes

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    It probably wouldn't have been such a big deal if they had used up all of those slots instead of deliberately using only 3 and leaving the rest empty on purpose.
    Why not? They won them according to the system and can use them however they wish so long as it doesn't break the rules or the laws. Not putting up a display doesn't break any of the rules or laws.
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    Re: Atheist messages displace CA park nativity scenes

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I suspect they see it as countering the negative impact of religion. Again, it's not what I would do, but I don't cry about people placing nativity scenes or whatever other message they want.
    It seems to me if they want to counter the 'negative impact' of religion, a better campaign would be something like 'what would the God you claim exists think of how you're acting' (or something like that), not making the affirmative claim that Jesus is a myth.

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    That may be the case.

    But I don't see why only religious organizations should get to speak out during the holiday seasons. I see nothing wrong with atheist groups doing this.
    I don't either and it doesn't have even the slightest impact on my religious beliefs. I'm more pointing out that atheism is a belief in itself, as the pic in the OP shows.
    Last edited by X Factor; 12-17-11 at 01:11 PM.

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    Re: Atheist messages displace CA park nativity scenes

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    Why not? They won them according to the system and can use them however they wish so long as it doesn't break the rules or the laws. Not putting up a display doesn't break any of the rules or laws.
    By leaving them empty on purpose and not even giving it to another group since they are not going to use them it is showing that they are purposely trying to push out religion. Why not give up the spaces to someone else if they're not going to use em? It doesn't have to be a religious group. Could be to the local Safeway for all I care. But they are not. They are purposely keeping them empty in order to push out religion.

    And I have never argued that what they are doing is against the rules or laws or the 1st amendment. That has never been my point.
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    Re: Atheist messages displace CA park nativity scenes

    An empty cage makes the statement that there's nothing there. Which is their point.
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    Re: Atheist messages displace CA park nativity scenes

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    An empty cage makes the statement that there's nothing there. Which is their point.
    I doubt very seriously that message is going to be received by anyone just walking by. They're going to walk by and see an empty cage and dismiss it. Or at most wonder why its empty. 90% of the people going by those signs are probably not even going to know that those empty spaces are connected to the 3 athiest signs. The other 10% are probably the ones involved in the whole affair and/or are discussing it like us.
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    Re: Atheist messages displace CA park nativity scenes

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    For not claiming to have any faith these dicks sure do want to spread their beliefs around and oppress the beliefs of others.
    Quote Originally Posted by Thorgasm View Post
    How are they oppressing the beliefs of others? Did they rig the lottery?
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    Re: Atheist messages displace CA park nativity scenes

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    And they did win 9 slots each didn't they? That equals 18 does it not? And are you denying the fact that combined they only used up 3 of the 18 slots?

    BTW, I may believe in God, but I am against organized religion (I've said this before on this forum, a few times I believe). So I could care less if Christians got it or the Athiests or the Muslims. What I do care about and have talked about quite a bit in this thread is the deliberate attempt by one group to push out another group. If the situation here was exactly reversed I would be hollering about it.
    What they did not do is apply for 18 slots, which is what you claimed. They applied to be considered for slots. When they won, they where able to choose how many, up to 9, they could get. Now, if a christian group had won and claimed those slots, would you be crying?
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    Re: Atheist messages displace CA park nativity scenes

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    It seems to me if they want to counter the 'negative impact' of religion, a better campaign would be something like 'what would the God you claim exists think of how you're acting' (or something like that), not making
    No one has claimed it was an effective campaign. Again, we see the difference in attitudes here. A drawing was held, people where able to do what they wanted with the slots they won. I would accept any outcome. Christians however are upset that the result did not go their way. One of us is completely consistent. Guess who it is.
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