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    Re: Atheist messages displace CA park nativity scenes

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Good question. Not really relevant to an argument though.

    You could have asked the same of, say, the civil rights movement.
    Here is something else you can't answer.

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    Re: Atheist messages displace CA park nativity scenes

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    But they didn't have 1 more person. We can only deal with the numbers that we have. Not on what they could have gotten if they had just one more person. The reason that they didn't have one more person could have been simply that they didn't have anyone else that would go along with them. And yes...it might have been that they didn't want to get all the slots. We don't know. So bringing in possibility that they could have brought in more people is just clouding up the issue.
    They could have found one more person. I think what you're trying to do is claim that the over abundance of theist displays could not be "crowding", even though it was and trying desperately to paint this move as something different than before. Had they really wanted to "crowd" out theists, they could have easily gotten another person.
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    Re: Atheist messages displace CA park nativity scenes

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    They could have found one more person. I think what you're trying to do is claim that the over abundance of theist displays could not be "crowding", even though it was and trying desperately to paint this move as something different than before. Had they really wanted to "crowd" out theists, they could have easily gotten another person.
    All that you're doing is conjecturing. We have no idea why they didn't bring in another person. We do know what they did have and what the other side had before and after the athiest group came in.
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    Re: Atheist messages displace CA park nativity scenes

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    All that you're doing is conjecturing. We have no idea why they didn't bring in another person. We do know what they did have and what the other side had before and after the athiest group came in.
    So once again we are back to being upset at competition.
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    Re: Atheist messages displace CA park nativity scenes

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    So once again we are back to being upset at competition.
    Ya know, maybe, if you keep saying that, it might become true!

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    Re: Atheist messages displace CA park nativity scenes

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Ya know, maybe, if you keep saying that, it might become true!

    /sarcasm
    Well, it is the only argument you have made so far. You complain about the competition, then deny that is what you are complaining about, then complain about the competition.
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    Re: Atheist messages displace CA park nativity scenes

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Well, it is the only argument you have made so far. You complain about the competition, then deny that is what you are complaining about, then complain about the competition.
    If that is all that you got out of my posts then I would suggest going back and reading them again. This time without personal bias.
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    Re: Atheist messages displace CA park nativity scenes

    Quote Originally Posted by bicycleman View Post
    I grew up in the 60's, and these were never issues. Why now?
    I was around in the 60's, and old enough to know exactly why "these" were never issues. As I pointed out in one of my earlier posts, confessing to being an atheist in the 1950's was enough to get you blacklisted for life, fired, ostracized, socially banned, and if you were important enough it got you a trip to D.C. to testify to your "atheist perversions" in front of a congressional committee.

    This ostracization of atheists continued in the 60's, 70's and 80's. Even in the 90's I wasn't comfortable admitting that I didn't believe there was a supreme being in the sky, listening to the individual prayers of up to 6 billion earthlings. As this thread shows, the ostracization continues to this day... and it sure doesn't help when a few militant atheists determined to carve a nitch of acceptance in a society that for the most part loathes them advertise their own lack of belief by mocking the beliefs of others.

    Most people I know who are openly atheist are among the staunchest supporters of freedom of religion. I know I am. I was one of the few who openly supported the Ground Zero Mosque because, yes, everyone is allowed the free practice of their religion in this country, even those who practice a religion that is frowned upon by practitioners of the country's majority religion.

    So that's why now. Some people are tired of being labeled as satan spawn because they are non-religious, so they're coming out of the closet demanding to be heard. It's not what I would do since I'm pretty much a live-and-let-live type of person. Others, not so much.

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    Re: Atheist messages displace CA park nativity scenes

    Every time I come back to this thread I wonder: if atheists don't believe in god, what's the problem with a nativity scene? Shouldn't atheists see it as perfectly harmless?
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    Re: Atheist messages displace CA park nativity scenes

    nvm...

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