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    Re: Atheist messages displace CA park nativity scenes

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    During a holiday let people put up holiday displays. Right now it's Christmas and Chanukha. The big problem I have with this issue is the timing and target, these same atheists I doubt would have the nerve to put up a sign saying something like "Allah sucks balls" during Ramadan or other muslim holidays
    Bingo. You know, if there was a place that a local muslims routinely put up something for Ramadan and Christians purposefully made it a point to get ahold of those locations, used one of those locations to basically go "Which of these is the true holy figure?" with a picture of Jesus and Mohammed, and the rest they just squated on and did nothing I'd say they were being dicks to. It doesn't mean all christians are dicks, anymore than it means all athiests are dicks, it just means those particular ones are dicks.

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    Re: Atheist messages displace CA park nativity scenes

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    So long as there is no historical evidence to indicate that their deities existed and did what their followers claim they did, no.
    I don't think you want to go down this road.
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    Re: Atheist messages displace CA park nativity scenes

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    And what we have learned in this thread:

    Freedom of speech is absolute, except when it offends the religious.
    Hey ....who in this thread, other than the one crazy guy who may very well be a poe and has multiple people on the christian groups side condemning him, has been suggesting that the Athiests be BANNED from putting up their signs?

    I don't remember people suggesting that Westboro people are DICKS equated to stating they shouldn't have freedom of speech...so exactly how is saying that the Athiests Groups were being dicks equating to the "religious" wanting to infringe on the absolution of Freedom of Speech

    Oh, by the way....hate to inform you but Freedom of Speech isn't absolute. Look up laws regarding fighting words, obscinity laws regarding speech in public, libel and slander laws, and others.

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    Re: Atheist messages displace CA park nativity scenes

    I don't think it's kosher to call one god "a god" and the gods of other religions, "myths." That's just theist...no...deist...ah no...well it's just not very nice. It's rude to the other religions. Either they're all myths or they're all gods.
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    Re: Atheist messages displace CA park nativity scenes

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Bingo. You know, if there was a place that a local muslims routinely put up something for Ramadan and Christians purposefully made it a point to get ahold of those locations, used one of those locations to basically go "Which of these is the true holy figure?" with a picture of Jesus and Mohammed, and the rest they just squated on and did nothing I'd say they were being dicks to. It doesn't mean all christians are dicks, anymore than it means all athiests are dicks, it just means those particular ones are dicks.
    Obviously, if we're going to outlaw atheism because some of it's adherents are dicks, then we'll have to do the same with Christianity.
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    Re: Atheist messages displace CA park nativity scenes

    Quote Originally Posted by EagleAye View Post
    I don't think it's kosher to call one god "a god" and the gods of other religions, "myths." That's just theist...no...deist...ah no...well it's just not very nice. It's rude to the other religions. Either they're all myths or they're all gods.
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    What Christians, Muslims, Jews, Hindus etc and their defenders, don't seem to get is that their religions are almost identical to those that existed 2000-3000 years ago. They're identical in purpose, stories, development and even some of the same figures and places continually appear in religions that are centuries apart. What differs? The number of gods, some figures and other mostly trivial bits. There is absolutely not a single religion out there that has brought any kind of new revelation or which has shown itself to be more capable of explaining the world around us from a metaphysical perspective or otherwise.

    Of course, I am biased because I accept that science and academia have shed the proverbial light unto all those little nooks and crannies that religion can't. However, your proposal is still the most valid on this thread. Either they're all true or they're all mythology.
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    Re: Atheist messages displace CA park nativity scenes

    Quote Originally Posted by EagleAye View Post
    I don't think it's kosher to call one god "a god" and the gods of other religions, "myths." That's just theist...no...deist...ah no...well it's just not very nice. It's rude to the other religions. Either they're all myths or they're all gods.
    This is not far from the truth. God has spoken to people of all ages and cultures in different ways. In our early development we saw many gods, as time went on Abraham realized there was one true God, and each religion has seen things revealed to it in its own way and its own time. This not to say that all religions are identical, but it does acknowledge that those sincerely seeking God have his grace, and no one who seeks him will be turned away.
    The morality of abortion is not a religious belief, any more than the morality of slavery, apartheid, rape, larceny, murder or arson is a religious belief. These are norms of the natural law of mankind and can be legislated even in a completely religionless society.

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    Re: Atheist messages displace CA park nativity scenes

    Get with the program.
    I get called "crazy" while you idiots want to act all proper and not call a spade a spade....

    You think atheism is benign and harmless?

    The latest claims made by senior officials came after British historian Jon Halliday claimed in his book ‘Mao’, published in 2005, that under Mao Tse-tung more people were killed than previously thought. Halliday said as many as 70 million Chinese people were massacred

    Human rights groups and churches in China say however that many Christians are held in harsh labor camps and prisons across the country, in many cases because of their involvement in evangelism, Bible distribution and ‘underground’ house churches.

    Report: 3000 Chinese Christians “Killed” Since 2000 « Status of Chinese People

    “In the last seven years 3,000 Christians were killed,” said Ulrich Delius, the Asia expert of the German-based Society for Threatened
    Peoples, which campaigns against all forms of genocide and “ethnocide”. The allegations were expected to further increase international concerns that China’s pledged economic reforms are not backed-up by more religious and poltical freedoms"

    Mark my words, call my "crazy"...I really don't care.

    I spent 22 years in the U.S. Armed Forces and we WILL be at war with China, an atheistic, statist regime....
    Atheism is an inherent part of Marxist doctrine, and it's core China is still a Communist state.

    Now how does one make the huge leap from atheists having a display in a public park that mocks religion? to war with China?

    First rule of war, never under-estimate your enemy and know your enemy.

    Walls are not always knocked down in with a wrecking ball, sometimes the mortar is slowly worn down, until brick by brick the wall
    no longer has any structure to support it.

    This is our civilization, based on Christian and Jewish values, the atheist's moral relativism is not benign...history says otherwise.
    History is replete with megalomurderous regimes from Stalin to Pol Pot...all at their core beliefs looking upon the religious as something
    to be eradicated.

    Organized atheism is at war with religion...in case you haven't noticed.

    it's time we stopped being passive and easy targets...
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    Re: Atheist messages displace CA park nativity scenes

    Quote Originally Posted by C-21 Cowboy View Post
    Get with the program.
    I get called "crazy" while you idiots want to act all proper and not call a spade a spade....

    You think atheism is benign and harmless?

    The latest claims made by senior officials came after British historian Jon Halliday claimed in his book ‘Mao’, published in 2005, that under Mao Tse-tung more people were killed than previously thought. Halliday said as many as 70 million Chinese people were massacred




    Report: 3000 Chinese Christians “Killed” Since 2000 « Status of Chinese People

    “In the last seven years 3,000 Christians were killed,” said Ulrich Delius, the Asia expert of the German-based Society for Threatened
    Peoples, which campaigns against all forms of genocide and “ethnocide”. The allegations were expected to further increase international concerns that China’s pledged economic reforms are not backed-up by more religious and poltical freedoms"

    Mark my words, call my "crazy"...I really don't care.

    I spent 22 years in the U.S. Armed Forces and we WILL be at war with China, an atheistic, statist regime....
    Atheism is an inherent part of Marxist doctrine, and it's core China is still a Communist state.

    Now how does one make the huge leap from atheists having a display in a public park that mocks religion?

    Walls are not always knocked down in with a wrecking ball, sometimes the mortar is slowly worn down, until brick by brick the wall
    no longer has any structure to support it.

    This is our civilization, based on Christian and Jewish values, the atheist's moral relativism is not benign...history says otherwise.

    Organized atheism is at war with religion...in case you haven't noticed.
    I bet atheists who practice capitalism give you a headache.
    I refuse to accept the view that mankind is so tragically bound to the starless midnight of racism and war that the bright daybreak of peace and brotherhood can never become a reality. - MLK

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    Re: Atheist messages displace CA park nativity scenes

    Quote Originally Posted by EagleAye View Post
    I don't think it's kosher to call one god "a god" and the gods of other religions, "myths." That's just theist...no...deist...ah no...well it's just not very nice. It's rude to the other religions. Either they're all myths or they're all gods.
    Except no one is saying......well with the exception of one guy here that atheism should be banned. What we are saying is "don't be a bunch of dicks and respect those religions choosing to celebrate the holidays".
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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