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    Re: Atheist messages displace CA park nativity scenes

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorgasm View Post
    Are college courses in Greek or Norse mythology mocking and belittling?
    Are you seriously and ridiculously attempting to equate a full out college course on Mythology of a religion and belief system held only by a infantismal population in modern times that taught in an institute of learning to a display out in public pointedly singling out only one singular modernly followed religion in its single sentence claim?

    This dumbass arugment wasn't debate, its ignorant snark being passed off as something more than just trying to jab people with a stick.

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    Re: Atheist messages displace CA park nativity scenes

    Quote Originally Posted by C-21 Cowboy View Post
    I'm referring to people openly hostile to Reiligion. In the spirit of Karl Marx. Someone saying they don't believe in God and leaving other's worship in peace is another matter. I'm referring to the MILITANT atheist that goes out of their way to oppose religion. They should be identified, monitored and if necessary jailed.

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    Re: Atheist messages displace CA park nativity scenes

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    I don't think its "dickish" to put up a "religious display" on a public grounds, especially when said display is in line with the way a large majority of the population celebrate a national holiday. I think it'd be "dickish" to attempt to exclude or ban all others. I don't see any evidence in this story that was attempting to be done in this case. They're not saying "Athiests don't put your things up!" they're saying "Athiests, don't take 18 spots and not sure 15 of them to do anything"
    i wonder why more churches didn't apply?

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    Re: Atheist messages displace CA park nativity scenes

    Quote Originally Posted by C-21 Cowboy View Post
    Further indication that Atheism should be outlawed.
    And one ridiculous comment rolls into another.

    One, there's a serious potential argument that it would be unconstitutional to do so as it could be argued that forcing one to hold SOME KIND of religious view is not allowing the free exercise of their religious beliefs.

    Second, people being douches doesn't mean that an entire set of beliefs should be outlawed. If that's the case I'd say Christianity is far ahead of athiesm on needing to be outlawed because these guys, while dicks, are nowhere close to the level of the "God Bless 9/11" and "Troops are Fags" folks of Westboro Baptist Church.

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    Re: Atheist messages displace CA park nativity scenes

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    general "you"
    The entire point I was making starting from my initial reply to Wake is that there is no "message" that can be applied to the entirety of atheists though, so the distinction is important.
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    Re: Atheist messages displace CA park nativity scenes

    The douches in this are the people whose applecart has been upset, and are now squealing like stuck pigs because someone else is acting like they have over the years. No longer having monopoly must be so upsetting. How dare anyone hold a contrary view, and dare to advertise it as well! Outrageous! Bah, humbug!
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    Re: Atheist messages displace CA park nativity scenes

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    i wonder why more churches didn't apply?
    Hard to say. I'm sure there are many that are just not interested in putting up nativity scenes in some places. Not everyones into putting up displays and such that way. I also figure that there wasn't some large push to get non-residents to come in and put in an application to put up displays as was evidenced in regards to the athiest groups. I figure not knowing that people were going to get spots to do nothing but sit there with them and do NOTHING probably didn't help the matter.

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    Re: Atheist messages displace CA park nativity scenes

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    The douches in this are the people whose applecart has been upset, and are now squealing like stuck pigs because someone else is acting like they have over the years. No longer having monopoly must be so upsetting. How dare anyone hold a contrary view, and dare to advertise it as well! Outrageous! Bah, humbug!
    How about read the story.

    Their issue isn't that people are attempting to "advertise their view". Their issue is that people specifically attempted to flood entries into the lottery not to be able to "advertise their view" but to specifically keep others from putting up their own displays, as evidenced by the fact that they are only using 3 of their 18 spaces to "advertise" and are simply squatting on the other 15 with nothing in them.

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    Re: Atheist messages displace CA park nativity scenes

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Hard to say. I'm sure there are many that are just not interested in putting up nativity scenes in some places. Not everyones into putting up displays and such that way. I also figure that there wasn't some large push to get non-residents to come in and put in an application to put up displays as was evidenced in regards to the athiest groups. I figure not knowing that people were going to get spots to do nothing but sit there with them and do NOTHING probably didn't help the matter.
    If the lottery situation still applies next year I would bet on their being a substantial influx of Christian applicants.
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    Re: Atheist messages displace CA park nativity scenes

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    The douches in this are the people whose applecart has been upset, and are now squealing like stuck pigs because someone else is acting like they have over the years. No longer having monopoly must be so upsetting. How dare anyone hold a contrary view, and dare to advertise it as well! Outrageous! Bah, humbug!
    No, I mean honestly they somehow won 18 spots. Even if we take it as nothing more than statistical anomaly, they had received the vast majority of spots. Now obviously they don't have to share those spots; but everything seems to say that they used 3-4, thus leaving 14-15 unused. If they didn't want to be dicks about it, they could have let other folk use the unused ones. But they felt like being dicks about it. That's all there is to it. Of course, they're free to be dicks and there's nothing one can really do other than changing rules for next year.

    Will they? Maybe. An individual being able to claim up to 9 is rather large. But I think that rule was more there to help the large groups that had been getting 14 spots routinely to keep being able to get a large number of spots. It just backfired this time is all. And the two groups that got the 18 slots are well within their rights to keep all those and not share as no one had shared with their groups in the past. But it's still a dick move.
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