View Poll Results: So what is true about Bill Johnson

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  • He is a hypocrite

    2 33.33%
  • He wants to do penance for being wrong

    1 16.67%
  • He likes money

    3 50.00%
  • He wants to foist unsuspecting Bill Johnsons on the gay community

    3 50.00%
  • He loves to screw people, but he hates having sex

    1 16.67%
  • He wants to create more Republicans in secret

    2 33.33%
  • He is gay curious

    1 16.67%
  • He is a mad scientist conducting an experiment

    0 0%
  • He wants to have lots of paternity lawsuits against him

    0 0%
  • All of the above

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Thread: Sperm-donor kept wife in the dark

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    Re: Sperm-donor kept wife in the dark

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    My interpretation of that quote was that he didn't know if the recipients of his sperm were gay, straight, married/committed or single. In other words, he's invoking plausible deniability.
    Wiki ~ Plausible deniability

    Do you have proof that he's just "invoking plausible deniability"? Or is it possible that he's actually telling the truth?
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    Re: Sperm-donor kept wife in the dark

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Wiki ~ Plausible deniability

    Do you have proof that he's just "invoking plausible deniability"? Or is it possible that he's actually telling the truth?
    It doesn't matter if he's telling the truth or not -- the very nature of his statement (that he didn't know) is one rooted in plausible deniability, since the chances that anybody will have concrete evidence of what he knew or didn't know is extremely slim.

    You seem to be mistaking what I said for an accusation that he's done anything wrong. I've pointed out more than once now that the guy has said he didn't know the relationship status of the recipients of his sperm, which means we can't necessarily accuse him of hypocrisy.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Sperm-donor kept wife in the dark

    Quote Originally Posted by Chaz View Post
    This is actrually a common misconception. While I personally have no problem with gay marriage I CAN see the reason why people argue they shouldnt be allowed to be married. From the perspective of the church (which keep in mind is the one that DOEs the marriage) marriage is between a man and a woman and being gay is wrong. With this in mind why should they be forced to contradict their own religious beliefs just because a couple wants the official title? In Truth I think this matter should be left out of the government entirely and left to the churches to decided whether or not to allow a person to marry. IMO we should just give them a seperate title like a civil union with the same rights and benefits as marriage. this oculd be done in an effort to make both groups happy.
    The misconception is yours. First, seperate is not equal. Second, no one would be forcing any religion to practice anything that is not within their beliefs. If your church does not believe homosexuals should be married then they don't have to marry them. If your church does believe that homosexuals can be married then your church is free to marry them. As it stands now...in most states...churches that believe homosexuals can marry cannot practice their beliefs the same as churches that do not beleive homosexual should be married. Third, you cannot leave government out of marriage without giving up the special rights and priveleges afforded to married couples. The state can only remove itself from the practice of marriage if it removes those special rights and priveleges it grants to married couples. It is equally true that the state should not be able to discriminate on a basis of gender, as many states still do, when awarding those special rights and priveleges.
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    Re: Sperm-donor kept wife in the dark

    Quote Originally Posted by smb View Post
    Note...if you have a problem with gays getting married then you have a problem with gays.
    Sorry, no. Don't confuse your opinion with a fact.

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    Re: Sperm-donor kept wife in the dark

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Sorry, no. Don't confuse your opinion with a fact.
    I am not confusing my opinion with fact. The facts are simple. If you have a problem affording a certain group of people their due rights by law then you have a problem with that group of people. If you did not have a problem with that group of people then there would be no problem in affording them their due legal rights. Anything else is irrational.

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    Re: Sperm-donor kept wife in the dark

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Three. He, like many other men, like to jerk off and make some money while doing it.
    He actually gave money to some of the women, and he said he did this because has a biological need to reproduce, which he can't with his wife. And he claimed to have discussed the issue with his wife, though maybe he didn't tell her what he did.

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    The Herald on Sunday approached Johnson on Thursday at a restaurant in Christchurch where he had just finished dining with one of the women he had successfully impregnated.

    He said the urge to become a biological father was "a need that I have".

    "I am married to the most beautiful woman in the world. When I married her I knew we couldn't have any more children. She had a hysterectomy 10 years ago.

    "There is nothing my wife would want to give me more in the world than a child of my own."

    He's an idiot to do it that way, there could be consequences for the children when they grow up and don't know who their biological father is, but I do pity him for the fact that he wants to have children but can't with his wife. As for his gay stance, I hope he learn to respect gay people more from this.
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    Re: Sperm-donor kept wife in the dark

    The guy's a doof for being a moron. He could have at least told his wife.

    What an even doofier thing to do is using this guy to further any political cause.

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