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Occupy Protesters Have Blocked Access to Three West-Coast Ports

cause.
Most rabble groups claim to speak for thier even if the majority is not on board.

"We have been elected by committees of our co-workers at the Ports of Los Angeles, Long Beach, Oakland, Seattle and Tacoma to tell our collective story. We have accepted the honor to speak up for our brothers and sisters about our working conditions despite the risk of retaliation we face."
 
"We have been elected by committees of our co-workers at the Ports of Los Angeles, Long Beach, Oakland, Seattle and Tacoma to tell our collective story. We have accepted the honor to speak up for our brothers and sisters about our working conditions despite the risk of retaliation we face."



I speak for the lizard people, As I was elected among them to represent the outer realms of zogobar!
 
I wanted to support it, I tried to find reasons to support it, because I support the rest of the movement, but after thinking about it for a long time, my answer will have to be no. The premise of their idea for the Shutdown is not bad, but in practical terms, its going to turn A LOT of people against them, including the Unions, who are one of their biggest sources of support, and its turns public support against them as well, it would be better to keep going after the politicians, like Thunder said, protest or "Occupy" city hall, the state capital, and congress.

I think the premise is bad. I think if the motivation behind an action is a negative one it will always end up being a mess like this was.
 
Yes..
First paragraph of the letter.
"We are the front-line workers who haul container rigs full of imported and exported goods to and from the docks and warehouses every day."

The ILWU has released a statement saying that they have not approved of the action. If you want to be honest then you will realize that there are conflicting accounts of the level of support by the longshoremen and truckers.
 
The ILWU has released a statement saying that they have not approved of the action. If you want to be honest then you will realize that there are conflicting accounts of the level of support by the longshoremen and truckers.

clearly, the unions aren't too thrilled with OWS stepping on their toes or stealing their limelight.
 
I think the premise is bad. I think if the motivation behind an action is a negative one it will always end up being a mess like this was.

The premise was to take away profits from rich corporations...I don't have a problem with that, as boycotts and such forms of protest have used that premise in many good movements, the way they did it though, an't so good.
 
The premise was to take away profits from rich corporations...I don't have a problem with that, as boycotts and such forms of protest have used that premise in many good movements, the way they did it though, an't so good.

But I would argue that a boycott is different. Then you are excercising your right to chose to buy, or not buy, a product. If you are blocking ports you are not imposing your will on other people. And I don't think the answer to the problem is taking profits away from rich corporations.
 
clearly, the unions aren't too thrilled with OWS stepping on their toes or stealing their limelight.

Anyone wanna guess why?

Union dues come out of the members's salaries.
 
Union dues are a flat-fee, unrelated to hourly income.

You sure don't know anything about the unions that you love and worship.

What's next? Payroll taxes are unrelated to hourly income?
 
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no, I only pay my union dues. why would I pay for everyone else's?

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Union members may be just a little pissed off, if their checks are smaller and still have to pay their full dues. In which case the union may have to cut them some slack, which means the union doesn't get it's total grease installment.
 
At least as far as my union goes, they only get their dues from me when I am working, and collecting a paycheck. And the dues are based on my income level. Members with higher incomes pay higher dues than members with lower incomes. And members with no income at all pay no dues at all.

My union is probably the same one that represents a lot of the workers who are currently being attacked and put out of work by the OccuVermin.
 
But I would argue that a boycott is different. Then you are excercising your right to chose to buy, or not buy, a product. If you are blocking ports you are not imposing your will on other people. And I don't think the answer to the problem is taking profits away from rich corporations.

Well, thats why i disagree with the blocking the port, because its as you said, "imposing your will on other people". but you have to agree (well i guess you don't HAVE TO, but you should...) that a rich huge corporation is easily enough prone to doing wrong things, and when that happens, the only real way to get their attention to stop, i think, would be to take away their source of happiness aka money. another aspect of the Occupy movement, is the thing some people are doing now, where they are putting their money in credit unions instead of the big banks on wall street, which i think is just a great way if more people did it, to get them to stop what they were/are doing with that money. i mean, if no one is putting money in that bank, what are they ganna do?
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