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    Re: Occupy Protesters Have Blocked Access to Three West-Coast Ports

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    6 figures = still part of the 99%
    Depends. 200,000 - 300,000 isn't, but correct me if I'm wrong.
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    Re: Occupy Protesters Have Blocked Access to Three West-Coast Ports

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    many of the dock workers support these actions. Goldman Sachs owns the shipping company.
    really now...

    from the OP:

    The trucker's frustration seems to mirror that of the International Longshore Workers Union, which did not sanction Monday's port actions. The ILWU said the protests would do harm to its members, costing them a day's pay, according to the Chronicle. But The Guardian reports that protesters say they're acting in support of the ILWU.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Occupy Protesters Have Blocked Access to Three West-Coast Ports

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    Occupy protesters try to disrupt ports; police make arrests - CNN.com

    The port protesters are focusing on terminals owned by SSA Marine, saying it is owed by the Goldman Sachs investment firm, which they argue exemplifies corporate greed and is anti-union.

    The union "shares the Occupy movement's concerns about the future of the middle class and corporate abuses," ILWU President Robert McEllrath wrote to locals last week"
    I certainly have less of a problem with this position if it is targeted as opposed to a general thing.

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    Re: Occupy Protesters Have Blocked Access to Three West-Coast Ports

    This is ridiculous..... I have never understood things like this. A bunch of flesh and blood people stopping trucks from getting into a port facility? Must be some damn big people to be able to stop a semi-truck from running their worthless asses over to make a delivery.

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    Re: Occupy Protesters Have Blocked Access to Three West-Coast Ports

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Depends. 200,000 - 300,000 isn't, but correct me if I'm wrong.

    I'm slightly north of that, and i think I'm in the "5%" I could be wrong, I'll have to check.
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    Re: Occupy Protesters Have Blocked Access to Three West-Coast Ports

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    This is ridiculous..... I have never understood things like this. A bunch of flesh and blood people stopping trucks from getting into a port facility? Must be some damn big people to be able to stop a semi-truck from running their worthless asses over to make a delivery.


    that or a reluctance to commit vehicular manslaughter might be the issue..... but no, you could be right.
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    Re: Occupy Protesters Have Blocked Access to Three West-Coast Ports

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    I'm slightly north of that, and i think I'm in the "5%" I could be wrong, I'll have to check.
    LOL - I'm way south of that but people still hate us because we're full of wholesome awesomeness in every bite.
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    Re: Occupy Protesters Have Blocked Access to Three West-Coast Ports

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    LOL - I'm way south of that but people still hate us because we're full of wholesome awesomeness in every bite.

    That's right shorteh!


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    Re: Occupy Protesters Have Blocked Access to Three West-Coast Ports

    And yet some people wonder why the OWS morons deserve to be in protest zones and cages...

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    Re: Occupy Protesters Have Blocked Access to Three West-Coast Ports

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    That's right shorteh!


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