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    Re: 81% Celebrate Christmas As A Religious Holiday

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    P.S. ACLU's statement about this:



    Christmas and the ACLU | American Civil Liberties Union

    The site also has a long list of cases where the ACLU defended Christians.
    Translation: the public square must be atheist. You can be religious behind closed doors.
    The morality of abortion is not a religious belief, any more than the morality of slavery, apartheid, rape, larceny, murder or arson is a religious belief. These are norms of the natural law of mankind and can be legislated even in a completely religionless society.

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    Re: 81% Celebrate Christmas As A Religious Holiday

    Well, I sure am glad this is in Breaking News, because I had no freaking clue that so many of us observed Christmas in this way, but now I do!

    I'm sure the next thread will read something like, "CIA Probe Reveals Pope is Catholic."

    Will wonders never cease?
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    Re: 81% Celebrate Christmas As A Religious Holiday

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    Re: 81% Celebrate Christmas As A Religious Holiday

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    Re: 81% Celebrate Christmas As A Religious Holiday

    Quote Originally Posted by smb View Post
    So let me get this straight. You are now backing away from the claim that people are attacking Christmas? Progress...amazing.

    Second, your big "example" is a failed law suit by a private citizen with no links to the actual story? I find your "proof" wanting to say the least. You also cannot be "bothered" to prove your claims? And you claim the "everyone knows" Christmas has been gone after in the past two decades? Really...I don't "know" that. This is a prime example of what is wrong with the conservative movement. They make these grandiose claims based on pencil thin evidence and extrapolate into a massive generalization based on "common sense." Common sense I might add which is neither common nor sensical.
    Oh look, another post attacking the "conservative" base when the topic has nothing to do with conservatism....or any other political party at that.

    As for the OP, yes people are attacking Christmas. Anytime any group wants to get rid of X-mas decorations from any public place it is an attack on Christmas. Anytime that a teacher is not allowed to say "Merry Christmas" it is an attack on Christmas. Now you can say that I'm useing the wrong word or that I'm overreacting or that I'm using hyperbole, but just remember, what you consider an attack and what I consider an attack may be two different things.

    Nativity scene in Texas under attack

    The following pic gotten from Freedom from Religion website...

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    And this was just a quick search.
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    Re: 81% Celebrate Christmas As A Religious Holiday

    I agree with Ipast. Can't offer anyone a link showing an actual case of someone attacking Christmas but I do know that the word Christmas is removed from schools and many businesses. So instead they use words such as Holiday Season or Winter Celebration.

    I am far from religious but I like the American Christmas tradition. Trying to call a Christmas tree a holiday tree is like using astericks for letters in profanity. Who in the heck do they think they are fooling? We all know its a Christmas tree and we know what that word is they are trying to sneak by.

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    Re: 81% Celebrate Christmas As A Religious Holiday

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Actually, this is worded a little wrong.

    It is only 81% of those who actually celebrate Christmas, which is 88% of the population, who celebrate it as a religious holiday.

    So that would mean that approximately 71% of the population, as a whole, celebrate Christmas as a religious holiday.

    My family celebrates Christmas, but not as a religious holiday. I like holidays and celebrating things in general, and use many different traditions in our celebration of Christmas. But my children will be raised with the belief that the main point of Christmas is giving and getting together with family. They will learn that other people celebrate Christmas for several different reasons, including why Christians celebrate it (my mom will probably be more than willing to help with instilling this). They will be free to choose for themselves how they wish to celebrate the season or if they want to at all, but they will also be taught to respect how others choose to celebrate or not during this season.
    Thats pretty much with us also...my family was roman catholics...but my mother and father neither were overly religious...Christmas didnt take on a religious thing with us...it was more a family time and fun time and eat like a pig time and regret it later thing...
    I honestly dont remember anyone I knew making it so religious a thing that it could be an affront to anyone else...

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    Re: 81% Celebrate Christmas As A Religious Holiday

    Just because they say it's a religious holiday does not mean they're religious, anymore than someone who says they are Christian but doesn't go to Church or practice its major tennets.

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    Re: 81% Celebrate Christmas As A Religious Holiday

    Quote Originally Posted by smb View Post
    So let me get this straight. You are now backing away from the claim that people are attacking Christmas? Progress...amazing.

    Second, your big "example" is a failed law suit by a private citizen with no links to the actual story? I find your "proof" wanting to say the least. You also cannot be "bothered" to prove your claims? And you claim the "everyone knows" Christmas has been gone after in the past two decades? Really...I don't "know" that. This is a prime example of what is wrong with the conservative movement. They make these grandiose claims based on pencil thin evidence and extrapolate into a massive generalization based on "common sense." Common sense I might add which is neither common nor sensical.
    You find it "AMAZING" that someone can be honest enough to reword something they wrote and acknowledge they made an error in speech ? I find that attitude amazing....and I stand by that christmas has been the brunt of many attempts to change it by different groups and indviduals...they wanted the word Christmas Holidays erased from school calendars...they wanted it Called the Holiday Tree not the Christmas tree...nativity scenes have been cause for lawsuits...just who you think your kidding man ? some people are just more honest than others...actually now that i think about it...I retract my SECOND statement...it has been attacked..

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    Re: 81% Celebrate Christmas As A Religious Holiday

    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckBerry View Post
    Translation: the public square must be atheist. You can be religious behind closed doors.
    Or in public if you're not a part of the govt. At least afaict. Ymmv, of course.
    I may be wrong.

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