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    Re: Charlotte Prepping for Occupy Wall Street at DNC

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Marching down a public street is illegal?

    You sound like a big ol tough guy on the internet Vance.. Real badass..
    If you don't have a permit to march down the public street (thus allowing the city to have enough advanced warning during the permitting process to put into place measures to ensure you won't disrupt the regular movement of people on the streets) then yes, marching down the public street is illegal, because you are impeding the flow of traffic.
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: Charlotte Prepping for Occupy Wall Street at DNC

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    If you support people doing whatever and wherever and however they want to without regard to the laws of the land, then it is you that has a misguided version of freedom. I think you are thinking more along the lines of 'Anarchy.' History serves as a reminder as to the reason 'why' it has become necessary to create those caged protest zones....primarily because like children, too many of the moronic protesters have proven they arent responsible enough to follow the rules and laws of the land. If they respected the rights of others and the laws they could protest peacefully right there alongside with the 'people' instead of being treated like 'animals'.
    So we have to cage people and use government force against their exercise of assembly and protest because people can't be trusted with their rights, huh? Not 100% the strongest argument out there.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

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    Re: Charlotte Prepping for Occupy Wall Street at DNC

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Well, the information I stated was from rumors that I've heard.
    I can't see how the current protest site is within any buffer zones though.... its not exactly close

    Besides, Charlotte's occupiers are quite inconsequential compared to what ive seen from the other cities.....
    Hell, half of them go get hotels overnight and leave their tents up to keep up appearances.
    And that's fine. I just have problems with caging freedom in the way we do, particularly when it's in reference to political protest. Political protest in particular must be upheld to its fullest, IMO.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
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    Re: Charlotte Prepping for Occupy Wall Street at DNC

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    And that's fine. I just have problems with caging freedom in the way we do, particularly when it's in reference to political protest. Political protest in particular must be upheld to its fullest, IMO.
    If anything, "Free Speech Zones" create paid and permitted protest zones ON THE STREET without anyone having to chip in, and the safety measures to ensure no traffic will be trying to go through there. Thats how I see it.

    It just depends on its location.
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: Charlotte Prepping for Occupy Wall Street at DNC

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    It is absolutely illegal without permits.
    "Amendment I: Congress shall make no law ... abridging ... the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

    You sound like an unemployed
    Actually i am employed.

    college student
    I am a college student..

    that thinks you understand the law and constitution
    I think i have a pretty good grasp...
    Are you saying sense im a college student that i cant understand the constitution?

    or for that matter the world
    Never claimed i understand the world. I really dont think anyone "understands the world".

    and in fact havent yet had to work a 40 hour a week job with a paycheck and provide for yourself
    I provide for my college....

    and still live off of mommy and/or daddy.
    Naa not so much anymore..
    Only on breaks!


    Nope...not an internet badass...unless that image makes you feel all better about yourself.
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    Re: Charlotte Prepping for Occupy Wall Street at DNC

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    If anything, "Free Speech Zones" create paid and permitted protest zones ON THE STREET without anyone having to chip in, and the safety measures to ensure no traffic will be trying to go through there. Thats how I see it.

    It just depends on its location.
    To a degree perchance. It's not that I don't see a need for reasonable compromise. But rather, there never seems to be restriction on what government can restrict; and to me that's a hung danger.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

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    Re: Charlotte Prepping for Occupy Wall Street at DNC

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    "Amendment I: Congress shall make no law ... abridging ... the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
    That doesn't legally allow one to block the streets. That is a public safety issue. Now as far as "safe zones" or cages, I believe that is total bull****. I fully support people ignoring them.

    I also understand marching in the streets if your complaints are ignored. Just remember that there will be consequences but sometimes they are worth it.

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    Re: Charlotte Prepping for Occupy Wall Street at DNC

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    So we have to cage people and use government force against their exercise of assembly and protest because people can't be trusted with their rights, huh? Not 100% the strongest argument out there.
    I know...isnt it a shame that so many of 'the public' are such ****s that they cant follow basic rules, laws, and respect for others? Sheesh.

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    Re: Charlotte Prepping for Occupy Wall Street at DNC

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    "Amendment I: Congress shall make no law ... abridging ... the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
    Actually i am employed.
    I am a college student..
    I think i have a pretty good grasp...
    Are you saying sense im a college student that i cant understand the constitution?
    Never claimed i understand the world. I really dont think anyone "understands the world".
    provide for my college....
    Naa not so much anymore..
    Only on breaks!
    VanceMack i love ya man.
    You always go back to this story you have in your head that im a spoiled college kid! I love it!
    The way you 'speak' and present yourself has a lot to do with how I perceive you. And please...by all means...stuff a copy of the constitution into your pocket and go to any LE agency in the country and try to stand in the middle of the street and express your constitutional rights to free and unrestricted protest. See how far that gets you. Like Dennis Leary once said...you are 19 years old, you dont know **** about ****, and pull up your pants.

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    Re: Charlotte Prepping for Occupy Wall Street at DNC

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    I know...isnt it a shame that so many of 'the public' are such ****s that they cant follow basic rules, laws, and respect for others? Sheesh.
    It's a bigger shame that others cannot see the consequences of freedom and have the integrity to uphold them.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

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