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Charlotte Prepping for Occupy Wall Street at DNC

Caine said:
If anything, "Free Speech Zones" create paid and permitted protest zones ON THE STREET without anyone having to chip in, and the safety measures to ensure no traffic will be trying to go through there. Thats how I see it.

It just depends on its location.
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To a degree perchance. It's not that I don't see a need for reasonable compromise. But rather, there never seems to be restriction on what government can restrict; and to me that's a hung danger.
 
TheDemSocialist said:
"Amendment I: Congress shall make no law ... abridging ... the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
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That doesn't legally allow one to block the streets. That is a public safety issue. Now as far as "safe zones" or cages, I believe that is total bull****. I fully support people ignoring them.

I also understand marching in the streets if your complaints are ignored. Just remember that there will be consequences but sometimes they are worth it.
 
Ikari said:
So we have to cage people and use government force against their exercise of assembly and protest because people can't be trusted with their rights, huh? Not 100% the strongest argument out there.
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I know...isnt it a shame that so many of 'the public' are such ****s that they cant follow basic rules, laws, and respect for others? Sheesh.
 
TheDemSocialist said:
"Amendment I: Congress shall make no law ... abridging ... the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
Actually i am employed.
I am a college student..
I think i have a pretty good grasp...
Are you saying sense im a college student that i cant understand the constitution?
Never claimed i understand the world. I really dont think anyone "understands the world".
provide for my college....
Naa not so much anymore..
Only on breaks! :mrgreen:
VanceMack i love ya man.
You always go back to this story you have in your head that im a spoiled college kid! I love it!
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The way you 'speak' and present yourself has a lot to do with how I perceive you. And please...by all means...stuff a copy of the constitution into your pocket and go to any LE agency in the country and try to stand in the middle of the street and express your constitutional rights to free and unrestricted protest. See how far that gets you. Like Dennis Leary once said...you are 19 years old, you dont know **** about ****, and pull up your pants.
 
VanceMack said:
I know...isnt it a shame that so many of 'the public' are such ****s that they cant follow basic rules, laws, and respect for others? Sheesh.
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It's a bigger shame that others cannot see the consequences of freedom and have the integrity to uphold them.
 
MrVicchio said:
The MONSTER the Dems created...
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Did democrats actually create the OWS movement? I admit I haven't studied the matter, but I haven't veer gotten that impression. What info have I missed?
 
Ikari said:
To a degree perchance. It's not that I don't see a need for reasonable compromise. But rather, there never seems to be restriction on what government can restrict; and to me that's a hung danger.
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Of course there is a restriction on what government can restrict.
In the case of protesting, the government is allowed to restrict some forms of protest based upon the time, place, and manner. These restrictions have to be REASONABLE.
They just don't have to go to a judge before hand.... (cities do, however, consult with their city employed attorneys to go over previous case law and make sure that they aren't doing anything that has already been deemed unreasonable in previous court rulings).
 
Caine said:
Besides, Charlotte's occupiers are quite inconsequential compared to what ive seen from the other cities.....
Hell, half of them go get hotels overnight and leave their tents up to keep up appearances.
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I noticed that! Same over here in the Triangle.
 
Ikari said:
It's a bigger shame that others cannot see the consequences of freedom and have the integrity to uphold them.
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Freedom doesn't give anyone the right to obstruct or impede others. Shame so many assholes can't figure that out. Dont like the cages and protest zones? Point the finger of blame where it belongs.
 
Freedom does not mean freedom from responsibility for ones actions. While I AGREE with Ikari that the methods used are shameful, who really is to blame for this?
 
North Carolina State Police are not to be trifled with, they will take your head off and have bar-b-que.
 
coolwalker said:
North Carolina State Police are not to be trifled with, they will take your head off and have bar-b-que.
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North Carolina does not have state police.

North Carolina has three state run law enforcement agencies.

The North Carolina Highway Patrol. (Traffic Law)
The North Carolina State Bureau of Investigations (SBI) (Investigating Organized Crime / Corrupt Local Law Enforcement)
The North Carolina Alcohol Law Enforcement Division. (ABC Laws)
 
The cages are a good place to assemble. Once everyone gets there, everyone could decide to leave at the same time. There are no locks. Just use the sidewalk.
 
VanceMack said:
Freedom doesn't give anyone the right to obstruct or impede others. Shame so many assholes can't figure that out. Dont like the cages and protest zones? Point the finger of blame where it belongs.
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Yet rights override convenience. The finger of blame is pointed at government for its restrictions and force against free exercise of rights.
 
MrVicchio said:
Freedom does not mean freedom from responsibility for ones actions. While I AGREE with Ikari that the methods used are shameful, who really is to blame for this?
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The government which uses its force against the free exercise of rights. Just because people can be jerks and asses when exercising their rights doesn't mean that we go after the rights. It's a consequence of freedom, of course there are going to be jerks and asses; you have to deal with it if you wish to remain free. This "well they annoyed me, so they belong in a cage" non-sense that some of y'all are coming up with is horribly destructive to the overall health and longevity of the Republic.
 
Simon W. Moon said:
Did democrats actually create the OWS movement? I admit I haven't studied the matter, but I haven't veer gotten that impression. What info have I missed?
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No, Democrats did not create the OWS movement, but you can bet the Democrats are going to try and hijack it, and it will become nothing more than a joke, just the same as the Tea Party movement became a joke after Republicans hijacked it.
 
danarhea said:
No, Democrats did not create the OWS movement, but you can bet the Democrats are going to try and hijack it, and it will become nothing more than a joke, just the same as the Tea Party movement became a joke after Republicans hijacked it.
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After?

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