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    Re: Woman Who Attacked ObamaCare Apologizes After Breast Cancer Diagnosis

    Quote Originally Posted by coolwalker View Post
    Everyone has the right to change their opinion. The Government has no right to force anyone to buy anything.....
    if only this idea was applied equally by Conservatives. they never bring up the Militia Act of 1792, which required all white-men over 18 to buy a gun.

    ironic huh?

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    Re: Woman Who Attacked ObamaCare Apologizes After Breast Cancer Diagnosis

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    if only this idea was applied equally by Conservatives. they never bring up the Militia Act of 1792, which required all white-men over 18 to buy a gun.

    ironic huh?
    A century before all male citizens of the Massachusetts Bay Colony were REQUIRED BY LAW to bring their firearms to church with them on Sunday mornings. Interestingly enough, the statute has never been nullified.

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    Re: Woman Who Attacked ObamaCare Apologizes After Breast Cancer Diagnosis

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    The government is not directly paying for the procedures and medication I take. That's what I'm talking about.
    Sure, that's what you're talking about, but it doesn't change anything. The government pays for part of your health care.

    Trust me, I'd love to get the government out of the health care industry entirely.
    But you still accept its help every time you go to the doctor, even if its not listed on your bill.
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    Re: Woman Who Attacked ObamaCare Apologizes After Breast Cancer Diagnosis

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    A century before all male citizens of the Massachusetts Bay Colony were REQUIRED BY LAW to bring their firearms to church with them on Sunday mornings. Interestingly enough, the statute has never been nullified.
    Interestingly, you didn't get the point.
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    Re: Woman Who Attacked ObamaCare Apologizes After Breast Cancer Diagnosis

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    No. Just sounds like she doesn't actually have any convictions.
    If she had "convictions" she'd be your type then?

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    Re: Woman Who Attacked ObamaCare Apologizes After Breast Cancer Diagnosis

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    If she had "convictions" she'd be your type then?
    She would be more my type than she is now.

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    Re: Woman Who Attacked ObamaCare Apologizes After Breast Cancer Diagnosis

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    She would be more my type than she is now.
    Yes you right wingers do get convicted quite often.

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    Re: Woman Who Attacked ObamaCare Apologizes After Breast Cancer Diagnosis

    Two years ago, Spike Dolomite Ward and her husband had to choose between paying their mortgage or keeping their health insurance. They kept the house, and now at 49 Ward has been diagnosed with breast cancer. She didn't know how she'd afford months of expensive treatment, until he discovered the Pre-existing Condition Insurance Plan, which is part of Obama's healthcare plan. Now she's publicly "outed" herself in the hopes that she can teach ObamaCare opponents that the uninsured aren't just lazy freeloaders.
    I cant be the only one who read her 'story' and was pissed off. Or am I?

    Money was tight - and like countless other people - they had to make choices where to cut back money. Somehow that came down to the house VS their healthcare (nevermind cellphone, internet, tv, etc etc etc).

    So - naturally - they CANCELED their own insurance knowing all too well the possibility of something bad happening when they're uninsured.

    But then she claims that "not all people without insurance are lazy freeloaders" and that "If you still have a good job with insurance, that doesn't mean that you're better than me, more deserving than me or smarter than me. It just means that you are luckier."

    She's a ****ING DIP**** who put their general healthcare underneath the possibility of SELLING THEIR HOME. Holy poo - since when are homes that important? Would it have killed them to just let go of it or rent it out? . . . and she breaks it down to being 'lucky' or not? What about all the other people who were in their same situation and chose to just keep the insurance they originally had even if it meant letting go of something else?

    Well - they most certainly wouldn't have been having to appologize to the president and make total asses out of their selves - now would they?
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    Re: Woman Who Attacked ObamaCare Apologizes After Breast Cancer Diagnosis

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    I cant be the only one who read her 'story' and was pissed off. Or am I?

    Money was tight - and like countless other people - they had to make choices where to cut back money. Somehow that came down to the house VS their healthcare (nevermind cellphone, internet, tv, etc etc etc).

    So - naturally - they CANCELED their own insurance knowing all too well the possibility of something bad happening when they're uninsured.

    But then she claims that "not all people without insurance are lazy freeloaders" and that "If you still have a good job with insurance, that doesn't mean that you're better than me, more deserving than me or smarter than me. It just means that you are luckier."

    She's a ****ING DIP**** who put their general healthcare underneath the possibility of SELLING THEIR HOME. Holy poo - since when are homes that important? Would it have killed them to just let go of it or rent it out? . . . and she breaks it down to being 'lucky' or not? What about all the other people who were in their same situation and chose to just keep the insurance they originally had even if it meant letting go of something else?

    Well - they most certainly wouldn't have been having to appologize to the president and make total asses out of their selves - now would they?
    You don't know **** about this lady, and whether she had cable, a cell phone, or whatever. Nor is it your place to judge. Every thread I go in you are outraged at someone and talking about their needing to burn in hell and how dumb they are. Always up on your high horse. No one is impressed.
    Ted Cruz is the dumbest person alive.

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    Re: Woman Who Attacked ObamaCare Apologizes After Breast Cancer Diagnosis

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    No, it sounds like she suddenly realize that her convictions weren't going to make life easy or simple and so she abandoned them without even the pretense of following them. That's part of why I've got mine in WRITING, and notarized. Now I can't just change my mind on a whim and do the easy thing rather than the Right one.
    What exactly is "wrong" with abandoning stupid convictions? Humans are not infallible. Sometimes we come to the wrong conclusions, and realize it later. To not be willing to admit that is not "conviction" to anything other than being a stagnant and uneducated person. I see nothing "right" about that.

    Convictions are not always good just because they're convictions. A conviction in the absence of logic is just an obstinate ego trip.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Four words for you.....

    Better DEAD than RED

    I have already informed family and friends that I will NOT accept ANY government medical care, regardless of the reason. It's actually written into my living will. If the only means to pay for a procedure or other medical expense is through government funds, I will not take it. Period. I'd rather die, thank you very much.

    Yes, I do understand that means after age 65 I will be without any medical insurance.
    I am aware someone has already said something similar to this, but I'll recap: You have already gotten government-sponsored medical care. Government-sponsored medical care has probably saved your life, from the sounds of things.

    You can try to dance around it and say it's not "direct" all you like, but you're wrong, and it is. If the government weren't directly involved with medical care at virtually all levels you'd probably be dead already. It doesn't get any more direct than that.
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