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    Re: Woman Who Attacked ObamaCare Apologizes After Breast Cancer Diagnosis

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    no, sounds like her eyes were opened, and she was able to see why this would be a good thing.
    No, it sounds like she suddenly realize that her convictions weren't going to make life easy or simple and so she abandoned them without even the pretense of following them. That's part of why I've got mine in WRITING, and notarized. Now I can't just change my mind on a whim and do the easy thing rather than the Right one.

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    Re: Woman Who Attacked ObamaCare Apologizes After Breast Cancer Diagnosis

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Four words for you.....

    Better DEAD than RED

    I have already informed family and friends that I will NOT accept ANY government medical care, regardless of the reason. It's actually written into my living will. If the only means to pay for a procedure or other medical expense is through government funds, I will not take it. Period. I'd rather die, thank you very much.

    Yes, I do understand that means after age 65 I will be without any medical insurance.

    Could you see if you could get the entire teaparty and ron paul loyalists to sign that pledge with ya...

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    Re: Woman Who Attacked ObamaCare Apologizes After Breast Cancer Diagnosis

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    No, it sounds like she suddenly realize that her convictions weren't going to make life easy or simple and so she abandoned them without even the pretense of following them. That's part of why I've got mine in WRITING, and notarized. Now I can't just change my mind on a whim and do the easy thing rather than the Right one.
    if you wish to die, hey your choice, seems she was not ready, and seen the light of things, that national healthcare has its advantages.

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    Re: Woman Who Attacked ObamaCare Apologizes After Breast Cancer Diagnosis

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Woman Who Attacked ObamaCare Apologizes After Breast Cancer Diagnosisaybe if the right who are all against this plan every come in this woman's situation, maybe they might change their minds...

    Thoughts?
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    Response? [/FONT][/COLOR]
    Hopefully someone informs her of all the available grants for breast cancer patients.
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    Re: Woman Who Attacked ObamaCare Apologizes After Breast Cancer Diagnosis

    Insurance is where you pay into a plan even though there is nothing wrong with you with the understanding that if something does happen, you will then be covered.

    Paying nothing and then paying in only a very small percent after you get ill is not insurance nor sustainable.

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    Re: Woman Who Attacked ObamaCare Apologizes After Breast Cancer Diagnosis

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    don't worry, 25$ is on the way to him.
    If you put the dollar sign behind the amount he won't be able to cash it.

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    Re: Woman Who Attacked ObamaCare Apologizes After Breast Cancer Diagnosis

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    I have already informed family and friends that I will NOT accept ANY government medical care, regardless of the reason. It's actually written into my living will. If the only means to pay for a procedure or other medical expense is through government funds, I will not take it. Period. I'd rather die, thank you very much.
    If you think you're not already getting care that had the government involved, you're fooling yourself. The government does or supports a huge amount of medical research. It supports hospitals and medical schools. It runs or supports programs like transplant and organ donor networks. It regulates drugs.

    Better die soon.
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    Re: Woman Who Attacked ObamaCare Apologizes After Breast Cancer Diagnosis

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    No, it sounds like she suddenly realize that her convictions weren't going to make life easy or simple and so she abandoned them without even the pretense of following them. That's part of why I've got mine in WRITING, and notarized. Now I can't just change my mind on a whim and do the easy thing rather than the Right one.
    False. She simply didn't have all the information. She said so.

    Lots of people are like that.
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    Re: Woman Who Attacked ObamaCare Apologizes After Breast Cancer Diagnosis

    Quote Originally Posted by coolwalker View Post
    Everyone has the right to change their opinion. The Government has no right to force anyone to buy anything. It then becomes a tax because the government has no role as a retailer. Some portions of all insurance plans should be altered, but to have a government official look at a chart and tell me "well, based on your age you can't have this operation" is just plain wrong. For you pie-in-the-skyer-liberal-Obama-Lovers, send him another few dollars for his campaign. He only has a billion right now.
    The fed is no more "forcing" you to buy health insurance than your state is "forcing" you to buy auto insurance. Furthermore, the fed isn't selling health insurance because it isn't offering Universal Health Care. The Health Insurance Exchanges (HIEs) will be established at the state-level -- A REPUBLICAN IDEA - not the federal level. Moreover, they won't even be underwriting insurance policies (again, no UHC). So, this "government has no role as a retailer" non-sense is just that...non-sense.

    Another misconception in your post above is this "policy by age" crap. Really, where do you folks get your information? Yes, under the healthcare reform law insurance policies will be made more "standardized" under Bronze, Silver and Gold essential benefit thresholds, but there's no age requirement per policy, i.e., "you can only be 65 before you can take out this policy over that one". Pure foolishness!

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Four words for you.....

    Better DEAD than RED

    I have already informed family and friends that I will NOT accept ANY government medical care, regardless of the reason. It's actually written into my living will. If the only means to pay for a procedure or other medical expense is through government funds, I will not take it. Period. I'd rather die, thank you very much.

    Yes, I do understand that means after age 65 I will be without any medical insurance.
    Sounds to me like you're forfeiting your Medicare benefits. I'll take 'em! Just will your Social Security over to the "Objective Voice Future Health Care Retirement Fund". I accept all donations from U.S. citizens who are foolish enough to go without their PAID health insurance benefits after they retire.

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    Re: Woman Who Attacked ObamaCare Apologizes After Breast Cancer Diagnosis

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Could you see if you could get the entire teaparty and ron paul loyalists to sign that pledge with ya...
    Sorry, I don't hang around with those idiots.


    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    if you wish to die, hey your choice, seems she was not ready, and seen the light of things, that national healthcare has its advantages.
    If she's not ready to die, then was she really living to begin with? I'm ready to die at any time.


    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    If you think you're not already getting care that had the government involved, you're fooling yourself. The government does or supports a huge amount of medical research. It supports hospitals and medical schools. It runs or supports programs like transplant and organ donor networks. It regulates drugs.

    Better die soon.
    The government is not directly paying for the procedures and medication I take. That's what I'm talking about. Trust me, I'd love to get the government out of the health care industry entirely.


    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    False. She simply didn't have all the information. She said so.
    Interesting that with no information she makes the right decision, but with the information she makes the wrong one. My guess is the information that really changed her mind was her expected lifespan.


    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Sounds to me like you're forfeiting your Medicare benefits. I'll take 'em! Just will your Social Security over to the "Objective Voice Future Health Care Retirement Fund". I accept all donations from U.S. citizens who are foolish enough to go without their PAID health insurance benefits after they retire.
    Yes I will be forfeiting both my medicare and SS benefits when it comes to that time. If I were going to donate them they wouldn't be to you, Voice.

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