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    Re: Woman Who Attacked ObamaCare Apologizes After Breast Cancer Diagnosis

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Everybody will need medical care at some part of their life. As for the not letting people die, yeah, conservatives have seem to become a bloodthirsty bunch
    Oh yes, bloodthirsty. Conservatives want to kill grandma. Heck, that's why they're staunch supporters of the second amendment, it's the quickest and easiest way to get the job done.

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    Re: Woman Who Attacked ObamaCare Apologizes After Breast Cancer Diagnosis

    Not all costs. Average cost of an insurance premium goes down, but total US dollars going toward health care doesn't change, and cost of medical care does not necessarily change.
    Of course...you would lower risk while also eliminating people that have no insurance but still get care as well. It would be a pretty substantial drop in payments.

    I don't want a system that relies on the young and healthy to fund the needs of the sick and elderly. I find it fundamentally flawed and culturally irresponsible to rely on our future generations to provide for our welfare and for things we should do for ourselves. That's what Medicare does and financially it's not working. That's also what SS does and it too needs fixing.
    That system has been around since mankind has been around. If anything industrialization and modern capitalism as well as technology advances have changed things. Granny and Grandpa no longer live with their children and grand children on the farm. Now they get a social security check and Medicare.

    The American Capitalists system has changed things. Look no further than countries where typically the elderly were taken care of by younger generations in that fashion (India/China) and the changes due to Modernizing.
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    Re: Woman Who Attacked ObamaCare Apologizes After Breast Cancer Diagnosis

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    Oh yes, bloodthirsty. Conservatives want to kill grandma. Heck, that's why they're staunch supporters of the second amendment, it's the quickest and easiest way to get the job done.
    Well....based on some of the policies and reactions of Conservatives lately...that is the case. It wasn't the case thirty years ago (Reagan)...it wasn't even the case with Bush and his "compassionate conservatism". It seems like you guys have rebelled against the "compassionate" part.
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    Re: Woman Who Attacked ObamaCare Apologizes After Breast Cancer Diagnosis

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Woman Who Attacked ObamaCare Apologizes After Breast Cancer Diagnosisaybe if the right who are all against this plan every come in this woman's situation, maybe they might change their minds...

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    I definitely think Obamacare is Constitutional, but even I will say that just because it helped one lady and others with pre-existing conditions doesn't make it good legislation.
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    Re: Woman Who Attacked ObamaCare Apologizes After Breast Cancer Diagnosis

    Quote Originally Posted by jambalaya View Post
    Basically I would have taken the exisitng Medicare and Medicaid programs and combined, expanded and streamlined them to provide care to those who can't afford insurance. Those who could afford payment would pay a monthly premium based on their finances. I would eliminate the prrescription drug program and establish a new program within Medicaid that wasn't a blanket coverage program for everybody.
    So basic single-payer.

    Sounds good to me. It would never pass, but it's probably the best solution.
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    Re: Woman Who Attacked ObamaCare Apologizes After Breast Cancer Diagnosis

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Yes, and I have personally seen many impacted by their higher premiums due to Obama care and the overhaul of HSA spending rules.
    And I've been personally impacted by pre-existing condition restrictions (that were incredibly broad), and no, I didn't voluntarily end my coverage.
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    Re: Woman Who Attacked ObamaCare Apologizes After Breast Cancer Diagnosis

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Four words for you.....

    Better DEAD than RED

    I have already informed family and friends that I will NOT accept ANY government medical care, regardless of the reason. It's actually written into my living will. If the only means to pay for a procedure or other medical expense is through government funds, I will not take it. Period. I'd rather die, thank you very much.

    Yes, I do understand that means after age 65 I will be without any medical insurance.
    I really hope you don't leave your house. We wouldn't want you stepping on roads built by that dirty government money. As a matter of fact, don't even drink the water coming out of your sink.
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