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Just Plain Wrong

Tucker Case said:
Why would you combine definitions?
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Empirica has her own definitions for words. If you're unable to understand her, it's your own fault for not using her version of English.
 
Deuce said:
Empirica has her own definitions for words. If you're unable to understand her, it's your own fault for not using her version of English.
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I can understand her well enough (I'm special like that).

My problem is that, as a self-certified expert on wit, I must challenge the claim that combining definitions would be a form of wit.
 
Empirica said:
Did it ever occur to you that you must combine the definitions before it works.
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So, does this mean that when we combine all that charm of yours with all that wit that it comes out your being full of chit?
 
Empirica said:
Don't get me wrong, whatever sick perversions she enjoys behind closed doors with another consenting adult is nobodies business but her young son shouldn't be forced to legitimize it.
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yea, she should be indulging in healthy perversions if she wants to set a better example for her son...
 
UtahBill said:
yea, she should be indulging in healthy perversions if she wants to set a better example for her son...
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But how do you determine/define which specific perversions are healthy and which are sick?

Are there noticeable signs of disease?
 
The Mark said:
But how do you determine/define which specific perversions are healthy and which are sick?

Are there noticeable signs of disease?
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This is a simple question with a simple answer but first, what is "perversion"?
perversion - definition of perversion by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.
per·ver·sion (pr-vûrzhn, -shn)
n.
A sexual practice or act considered abnormal or deviant.
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Healthy perversion;__A perversion practiced by consenting adults and kept private behind locked doors__'have fun'!

Unhealthy perversion;__A perversion exposed to the public and demanded to be accepted and legitimized by society.
 
Empirica said:
This is a simple question with a simple answer but first, what is "perversion"?
perversion - definition of perversion by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.
per·ver·sion (pr-vûrzhn, -shn)
n.
A sexual practice or act considered abnormal or deviant.
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Healthy perversion;__A perversion practiced by consenting adults and kept private behind locked doors__'have fun'!

Unhealthy perversion;__A perversion exposed to the public and demanded to be accepted and legitimized by society.
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Marriage is a perversion?
 
RadicalModerate said:
Marriage is a perversion?
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Of course not einstein__When combined, the opposite sexes contribute their unique qualities to create the perfect union for navigating life's many obstacles and is the most efficient means of producing and raising children to be happy, healthy, productive and well balanced adults.
 
Empirica said:
Of course not einstein__When combined, the opposite sexes contribute their unique qualities to create the perfect union for navigating life's many obstacles and is the most efficient means of producing and raising children to be happy, healthy, productive and well balanced adults.
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What do you mean by efficient? Gay parents waste time and energy when raising children? There is no discernible difference between gay and straight parents.
 
Empirica said:
Healthy perversion;__A perversion practiced by consenting adults and kept private behind locked doors__'have fun'!

Unhealthy perversion;__A perversion exposed to the public and demanded to be accepted and legitimized by society.
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Again, Empirica gets wrapped up in the gay sex part and thinks that's the defining feature of homosexuals.
 
RadicalModerate said:
What do you mean by efficient? Gay parents waste time and energy when raising children? There is no discernible difference between gay and straight parents.
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There is a story about a female wolf who raises a pair of lost children and tarzan of the jungle was of course raised by apes but in most cases it is the unique qualities of a mother and father that creates the perfect most natural environment for child rearing and anyone who believes otherwise is delusional__It's not wise to mess with Mother Nature.
 
Empirica said:
There is a story about a female wolf who raises a pair of lost children and tarzan of the jungle was of course raised by apes but in most cases it is the unique qualities of a mother and father that creates the perfect most natural environment for child rearing and anyone who believes otherwise is delusional__It's not wise to mess with Mother Nature.
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Most species on this planet do not raise their young to have both mother and a father around. As a matter of fact, only in mammals is the "mother" and "father" structure remotely applicable. Even then, there is a large percentage of mammals where rearing is left up almost entirely to the female. Your argument for "natural environment" is false.
 
Empirica said:
There is a story about a female wolf who raises a pair of lost children and tarzan of the jungle was of course raised by apes but in most cases it is the unique qualities of a mother and father that creates the perfect most natural environment for child rearing and anyone who believes otherwise is delusional__It's not wise to mess with Mother Nature.
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A large percentage of animal species leave it all up to the female. The male does his thing, then takes a hike.....until a year later when the female is in heat again....so much for mother nature...
 
Empirica said:
There is a story about a female wolf who raises a pair of lost children and tarzan of the jungle was of course raised by apes but in most cases it is the unique qualities of a mother and father that creates the perfect most natural environment for child rearing and anyone who believes otherwise is delusional__It's not wise to mess with Mother Nature.
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So men should eat their step-children like lions do?
 
Too bad people can't discuss the issue in the OP...

It's obvious the mother coached her child to say that in Bachmann's ear to make Bachmann look like a heartless monster. OR, if you want to play the game where you say "OH, OF COURSE SHE DIDN'T DO THAT," we'll play that game with ******* everything in politics.
 
Empirica said:
There is a story about a female wolf who raises a pair of lost children and tarzan of the jungle was of course raised by apes but in most cases it is the unique qualities of a mother and father that creates the perfect most natural environment for child rearing
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Great anecdote. What does that have to do with the science of human behavior?

anyone who believes otherwise is delusional
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Once again, Empirica spent almost a whole Sunday afternoon on the wrong side of the internet and now knows more than the most respected medical organizations in the world. Comprehensive, controlled, peer-reviewed, science-based research studies into the complex realm of human behavior?

"F THAT! I got a monkey metaphor!!!"
 
Empirica said:
This is a simple question with a simple answer but first, what is "perversion"?
perversion - definition of perversion by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.
per•ver•sion (pr-vûrzhn, -shn)
n.
A sexual practice or act considered abnormal or deviant.
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That sounds about right.

Empirica said:
Healthy perversion;__A perversion practiced by consenting adults and kept private behind locked doors__'have fun'!

Unhealthy perversion;__A perversion exposed to the public and demanded to be accepted and legitimized by society.
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And this is where you go way off course.

Firstly, we refer back to the definition you handily supplied: "per•ver•sion (pr-vûrzhn, -shn)
n.
A sexual practice or act considered abnormal or deviant."


You'll note the word "considered".

It would appear another definition is necessary:
considered - definition of considered by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.
con•sid•ered (kn-sdrd)
adj.
1. Reached after or carried out with careful thought; deliberate: my considered opinion; a considered policy involving a measured response to provocations.
2. Highly regarded; esteemed.​

We'll dismiss the second definition, as I doubt it applies here.

The first definition, however, applies.

If we follow the logic, then: What perversion is changes depending who you are talking to - if they consider something a perversion, then it is such, from their perspective.


In short, what is perverted is a matter of personal opinion.

There is My Little Pony porn.
I personally consider that perverted.
But, quite obviously, some do not - or it would not exist.
Or perhaps they do, and LIKE perversion.

/shrug.


Edit: What I'm trying to say here, Emprica, is that while you may consider X act to be perverted...

That does not mean that it is perverted, end of story. It ONLY means that YOU THINK it is perverted. Nothing more.
 
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The Mark said:
That sounds about right.

And this is where you go way off course.

Firstly, we refer back to the definition you handily supplied: "per•ver•sion (pr-vûrzhn, -shn)
n.
A sexual practice or act considered abnormal or deviant."


You'll note the word "considered".

It would appear another definition is necessary:
considered - definition of considered by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.
con•sid•ered (kn-sdrd)
adj.
1. Reached after or carried out with careful thought; deliberate: my considered opinion; a considered policy involving a measured response to provocations.
2. Highly regarded; esteemed.​

We'll dismiss the second definition, as I doubt it applies here.

The first definition, however, applies.

If we follow the logic, then: What perversion is changes depending who you are talking to - if they consider something a perversion, then it is such, from their perspective.


In short, what is perverted is a matter of personal opinion.

There is My Little Pony porn.
I personally consider that perverted.
But, quite obviously, some do not - or it would not exist.
Or perhaps they do, and LIKE perversion.

/shrug.


Edit: What I'm trying to say here, Emprica, is that while you may consider X act to be perverted...

That does not mean that it is perverted, end of story. It ONLY means that YOU THINK it is perverted. Nothing more.
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Yea right, and war is peace and slavery is freedom.

Apparently you have no idea how ridiculous this is, otherwise you wouldn't have posted it.
 
Empirica said:
Yea right, and war is peace and slavery is freedom.

Apparently you have no idea how ridiculous this is, otherwise you wouldn't have posted it.
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No.

War, peace, slavery and freedom are more easily defined, albeit similarly ethereal and vague in specific details.

In War, for example, you have two groups of people who disagree so strongly on something that they cannot come to an agreement.

In peace, you have the same two groups of people (perhaps), yet they CAN come to an agreement.

Slavery vs. freedom is even less nuanced than the above: In the case of slavery, the enslaved have their freedom of will taken away. In the case of freedom…well, that’s obvious.
 
The Mark said:
No.

War, peace, slavery and freedom are more easily defined, albeit similarly ethereal and vague in specific details.

In War, for example, you have two groups of people who disagree so strongly on something that they cannot come to an agreement.

In peace, you have the same two groups of people (perhaps), yet they CAN come to an agreement.

Slavery vs. freedom is even less nuanced than the above: In the case of slavery, the enslaved have their freedom of will taken away. In the case of freedom…well, that’s obvious.
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Is it really that important for you people to be permited to marry your gay lover or is it just to rub your homosexuality in the face of christianity and society in general???
 
Empirica said:
Is it really that important for you people to be permited to marry your gay lover or is it just to rub your homosexuality in the face of christianity and society in general???
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I think they're just rubbing it in your face. Or, in the case of men...

Weiner goin' in the wrong place and you can't stop us!! Hahaha!

I think those who get upset by it have a problem. They're consenting adults; what would you care.
 
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