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Just Plain Wrong

Empirica said:
That depends on what you meant by "somethin other"?!

(liberals love playing silly word games believing it validates their argument__ha-ha__they think they're so clever)
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You know those darned liberals... I mean they use underscores and colored text as well as if they actually meant something...

And then when asked to support their inane contentions with facts, they cut and run.

Can you believe it?
 
lpast said:
Nice try...wrong...only 6 % and its not natural
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Define natural.

I can do this all day/week/year, lpast. Until you define your terms in some sort of consistent, accepted way, your positions completely lack logic.
 
lpast said:
Heres a truth...you can make up all the inferences you want, you can apply all your own personal ideals...and the truth is you cant answer the question truthfully...to do so would make you wrong....Define How homosexuality is normal.....you cant. Im done with the conversation for now...because theres too much dishonesty and the cheerleaders will never admit to being wrong...
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This post is ironic. YOU can't answer any of the questions posed to you honestly, because if you did, you would see that your position has no basis in logic. That's why all you do in these debates is dance and complain.
 
Your Star said:
Hehe, it's not crap, it's just the truth. If your using normal as a statistical thing, then yes being gay, Jewish, and left handed are not normal. If your trying to use it as a moral indicator, of what is good or bad, well then you'd be wrong. Seriously your hatred for humans who aren't doing anything different than what you do is disturbing. I feel bad for you, I hope you can overcome this.
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Last time...Jewish and left handed have no correlation to the unnatural abnormality of homosexuality.....and please stop quoting Captain Courtesy his routine is stale now and worthless...try to come up with something anything...at least on your own
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
This post is ironic. YOU can't answer any of the questions posed to you honestly, because if you did, you would see that your position has no basis in logic. That's why all you do in these debates is dance and complain.
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Lieing to me and about me wont work CC...Ive answered your question more than a few times...and sadly but understandably you cannot answer mine...to do so would make you look wrong and ridiculous...I understand your reluctance...but you shall not got off easily...now all you have to do is answer the question.

Define how Homosexuality is normal
 
lpast said:
Youve already lost, you have proven you can only attack your opponent with dodges and accusations of them being dishonest andput words in their mouth to attempt to change their meaning.....you are totally unable to prove any of your points and you refuse to answer my question...Define how homosexuality is Normal....because you cant answer it,to do so would make you wrong...and your ego could never allow that. Homosexuality is neither normal or natural thats a truth no matter how many times you and your cheerleading squad say its not so.
I relish in your loss CC and I relish that when your put in the same position you love to put everyone else in....you fail....:)
I have no animosity and certainly no hatred for homosexuals. They apparently have more hatred towards me because I dont agree with them. The only dislike I have is their constant overbearing attempts to force me to agree with them...I dont agree with anyone about anything merely because they insist that I do. I either believe it or I do not.
Everyone thats for homosexual marriage on this forum have no facts to support their arguments all they have is what you CC accuse everyone else of. acting on emotion.
Im through with this conversation for now...its become pointless because you cant answer the question...but im sure another like conversation will come about "SHORTLY"
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More dancing and complaining. You've got nothing, lpast, and you know it. You came here with a position based on a lack of logic and thought that people would just accept it... but found out instead that people confronted you and insisted that you prove your position... which you can't. You complain because your position on this lack any evidence or rationality. You have failed to answer any question posed, and have shown a complete lack of consistency when you have dared to actually answer... and they gotten angry when your hypocrisy was demonstrated. Don't blame me for your weakness.

I have no issue with my position, as I know it is accurate/correct. YOU'RE the one complaining. I'm just enjoying watching you squirm.
 
lpast said:
When your asked to define how its normal....your unable or unwilling to expose the weakness in your postion and you refuse to answer :)
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I'll be happy to answer... once you define the term. You have failed to do that and until you do, I have no reason to agree to your request.
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
Define natural.

I can do this all day/week/year, lpast. Until you define your terms in some sort of consistent, accepted way, your positions completely lack logic.
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Thats the point you cant do anything but be dishonest and dodge and play games...I got you down pat now CC....your debating skills are a legend in your own mind...you dont debate you dodge, play games make false accusations all so you dont have to expose your lack of any factual substance to back your claims..

Again..Define how homosexuality is Normal...
 
lpast said:
Last time...Jewish and left handed have no correlation to the unnatural abnormality of homosexuality.....and please stop quoting Captain Courtesy his routine is stale now and worthless...try to come up with something anything...at least on your own
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Yes they do, the majority of the population are neither, so therefore they are not normal, just like homosexuality. Of course, that definition has no moral connotation to it, and unless you are willing to give us another definition of normal that you are using, then your position is not logical.

And why come up with something different when there is such an awesome example available? I'm sure CC doesn't mind :)
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
I'll be happy to answer... once you define the term. You have failed to do that and until you do, I have no reason to agree to your request.
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You cant answer the question, to do so would show your claims to be absurd...ive answered you and, Everyone in this thread thats honest knows I have. :) nice try no cigar "again" lol
 
lpast said:
Now thats just a bunch of crap there, what do you do star memorize everything CC says ?? and repeat and ask it all over again
GET THIS RIGHT...It is NOT natural for two males to have sex nor two females and it doesnt have a damn thing to do with being Jewish or lefthanded....you nor cc no anyone else will ever be allowed to play games with what I said....I have no qualms saying whatever it is I want to say all on my own. I wont even respond to absurd crap like this again
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You won't respond because you can't. Logic defeats your position every time. If you are going to use the term "normal" in a statistical sense, then being Jewish or being lefthanded is also not normal. If you do not agree with that, then your position is hypocritical and a fail. As far as natural goes, you need to define the term. If you are going to use it as something that occurs in nature, then cannibalism and murder are also natural. If you do not agree with that, then your position is hypocritical and a fail. This is why you always lose when discussing this issue. You either refuse to define your terms, or demonstrate hypocrisy or a lack of logic.
 
Your Star said:
Yes they do, the majority of the population are neither, so therefore they are not normal, just like homosexuality. Of course, that definition has no moral connotation to it, and unless you are willing to give us another definition of normal that you are using, then your position is not logical.

And why come up with something different when there is such an awesome example available? I'm sure CC doesn't mind :)
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I know CC is your hero...he thinks for you :) but thats fine...hes just as wrong as you would be if you tried to think for yourself :)
 
Empirica said:
"Normal" is a much too simple logic within itself to require "facts to back" it up__It is what it is slick willy.

(when I get bored I come here to play word games with liberals__they seem to enjoy it alot)
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Another one who cannot define the term because she knows it will prove her position a failure.

I love watching extreme conservatives dance and squirm when they know that their position is absurd.
 
lpast said:
Last time...Jewish and left handed have no correlation to the unnatural abnormality of homosexuality.....and please stop quoting Captain Courtesy his routine is stale now and worthless...try to come up with something anything...at least on your own
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See, lpast... now you're switching the discussion in the middle. You started off with "normal"... and when you found that you were completely humiliated in discussing THAT, you switched to "natural". Trust me. You will fare no better with the use of that word.
 
Everyone reading this thread now knows Captain Courtesy is a non debater....his debating skills are dodging questions and asking questions repetitively so as not to expose his weak position by not answering all the while telling us hes an expert in everything he discuss's...lol....
Im done playing the game for now CC...get together with a few of your flock and feed them what to say in the next thread..LOL....this gets funnier all the time...

The final determination of this thread is ..I answered your question and defined homosexuality as abnormal and unnatural and you couldnt even find the gumption to attempt to answer a question in response...Define how homosexuality is normal....pretty pathetic :) but typical and to be expected...:) Nothing personal...Im just tuned in to your tactics now...
 
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lpast said:
Lieing to me and about me wont work CC...Ive answered your question more than a few times...and sadly but understandably you cannot answer mine...to do so would make you look wrong and ridiculous...I understand your reluctance...but you shall not got off easily...now all you have to do is answer the question.

Define how Homosexuality is normal
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No, you haven't. You defined "normal" in statistical terms, here... and they demonstrated hypocrisy by denying the definition of other examples. So, you did not define it accurately, since you refuted your own definition.

Define normal.
 
lpast said:
I know CC is your hero...he thinks for you :) but thats fine...hes just as wrong as you would be if you tried to think for yourself :)
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Ah yes, the lovely ad hominem, I guess if your going to abandon logic you might as well go all the way.

Can you please, just define normal for us, then we might get somewhere.
 
lpast said:
Thats the point you cant do anything but be dishonest and dodge and play games...I got you down pat now CC....your debating skills are a legend in your own mind...you dont debate you dodge, play games make false accusations all so you dont have to expose your lack of any factual substance to back your claims..

Again..Define how homosexuality is Normal...
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Poor lpast. I know... it sucks when your position is exposed as a non-starter. Perhaps if you defined your terms... oh wait... that would probably result in your defeat, too. Well, at least then, we'd know what you actually base your position on from a logical sense.
 
lpast said:
You cant answer the question, to do so would show your claims to be absurd...ive answered you and, Everyone in this thread thats honest knows I have. :) nice try no cigar "again" lol
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Everyone in this thread has seen you dance, dodge and complain. Everyone has seen you answer the question... and then refute your own definition. Therefore, you have yet to answer the question.

Define normal.
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
Poor lpast. I know... it sucks when your position is exposed as a non-starter. Perhaps if you defined your terms... oh wait... that would probably result in your defeat, too. Well, at least then, we'd know what you actually base your position on from a logical sense.
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Here ya go...read this again...then please explain it to your parrot

Everyone reading this thread now knows Captain Courtesy is a non debater....his debating skills are dodging questions and asking questions repetitively so as not to expose his weak position by not answering all the while telling us hes an expert in everything he discuss's...lol....
Im done playing the game for now CC...get together with a few of your flock and feed them what to say in the next thread..LOL....this gets funnier all the time...

The final determination of this thread is ..I answered your question and defined homosexuality as abnormal and unnatural and you couldnt even find the gumption to attempt to answer a question in response...Define how homosexuality is normal....pretty pathetic but typical and to be expected... Nothing personal...Im just tuned in to your tactics now...

Nice try and again no cigar for you...lololol...this is fun I am enjoying watching you squirm..
 
lpast said:
Everyone reading this thread now knows Captain Courtesy is a non debater....his debating skills are dodging questions and asking questions repetitively so as not to expose his weak position by not answering all the while telling us hes an expert in everything he discuss's...lol....
Im done playing the game for now CC...get together with a few of your flock and feed them what to say in the next thread..LOL....this gets funnier all the time...
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What's funny is watching you try out for "Dancing with the Stars". :lol:

The final determination of this thread is ..I answered your question and defined homosexuality as abnormal and unnatural and you couldnt even find the gumption to attempt to answer a question in response...Define how homosexuality is normal....pretty pathetic :) but typical and to be expected...:) Nothing personal...Im just tuned in to your tactics now...
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You CLAIMED homosexuality as abnormal and unnatural, but did not define what abnormal/normal or unnatural/natural is. And every time you have been confronted on this, you've done nothing but scream and complain like a victim. Look, we KNOW your position has no merit and we understand that you do not want that proven to you. Just admit that and everything will be fine.
 
lpast said:
Here ya go...read this again...then please explain it to your parrot

Everyone reading this thread now knows Captain Courtesy is a non debater....his debating skills are dodging questions and asking questions repetitively so as not to expose his weak position by not answering all the while telling us hes an expert in everything he discuss's...lol....
Im done playing the game for now CC...get together with a few of your flock and feed them what to say in the next thread..LOL....this gets funnier all the time...

The final determination of this thread is ..I answered your question and defined homosexuality as abnormal and unnatural and you couldnt even find the gumption to attempt to answer a question in response...Define how homosexuality is normal....pretty pathetic but typical and to be expected... Nothing personal...Im just tuned in to your tactics now...

Nice try and again no cigar for you...lololol...this is fun I am enjoying watching you squirm..
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Ah. The argument to repetition logical fallacy. Good one. I haven't see that one in quite a while.
 
Tucker Case said:
I'm not simply limiting it to "average". No matter how it's defined it'll end up being a fallacy in a moral argument.

If it's used to describe, as you put it, "what is right or proper or natural", then the argument begs the question since the conclusion that something is or is not right or proper or natural is implied by the premise.

No definition of "normal" can exist which allows one to use it as the means to draw a conclusion about the morality of an action which is not fallacious.
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You will certainly have to run the last two sentences by me again. Presumably the person will try and make an argument about what is right or proper or natural and not just assert it.
 
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